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  • sleepingbeauty
    Grease Monkey
    • Jul 2010
    • 399

    #1

    wheel question

    So if I have a rim that has a decent wobble when it rolls alone w/o weights, a flat spot. Will a tire still be able to mount up and balance out on it? or does someone need an ass kicking?
  • gp.plus
    E30 Addict
    • Mar 2010
    • 416

    #2
    Ass kicking. Even a minor irregularity will transfer through the tires. It may balance on the machine but you will still feel/hear it driving.

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    • iamsam
      Advanced Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 172

      #3
      Originally posted by sleepingbeauty
      So if I have a rim that has a decent wobble when it rolls alone w/o weights, a flat spot. Will a tire still be able to mount up and balance out on it? or does someone need an ass kicking?
      1. make more sense
      2. use more details

      is the wheel bent? can you see a bend? did you just roll it by itself on the pavement? because you won't be able to tell crap that way, unless its bent bad.

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      • Sloppopotamus
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 62

        #4
        if its a flat spot in your tire your not going to get it to go away. Put it on the right rear and you will feel it less, but it won't go away, you need to replace it. If its a bent rim and its not aluminum or you don't mind hammering it or bending it back you can make it a little better that way

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        • E30Dan07
          Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 69

          #5
          On a related note, I recently took a set of 15" OZ Racing Vega wheels to Woody's Wheel Works here in Denver to get a quote on powdercoating the centers. They popped them on the balancer for me and determined three of the four were bent (I got them from the car's previous owner). They quoted me well over a hundred a piece just to fix the bends! If you ask me, they weren't wobbling all that much, but man, I could spend less on a brand new set of wheels, especially if I sold them for cheap. Thoughts?

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          • sleepingbeauty
            Grease Monkey
            • Jul 2010
            • 399

            #6
            im rolling it on my floor, all rim no tire, can see a flat spot, has a wobble. don't know how much more detail I can give w/o loading a video (which i dont think is worth it) Going to see if I can get it prof done somewhere in boulder

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            • Sloppopotamus
              Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 62

              #7
              Originally posted by E30Dan07
              On a related note, I recently took a set of 15" OZ Racing Vega wheels to Woody's Wheel Works here in Denver to get a quote on powdercoating the centers. They popped them on the balancer for me and determined three of the four were bent (I got them from the car's previous owner). They quoted me well over a hundred a piece just to fix the bends! If you ask me, they weren't wobbling all that much, but man, I could spend less on a brand new set of wheels, especially if I sold them for cheap. Thoughts?
              Not worth it. if you want to keep them just powdercoat them and call it good otherwise sell them and buy new rims

              Originally posted by sleepingbeauty
              im rolling it on my floor, all rim no tire, can see a flat spot, has a wobble. don't know how much more detail I can give w/o loading a video (which i dont think is worth it) Going to see if I can get it prof done somewhere in boulder
              guess if you want to keep the rims then you can go that route. otherwise try and do a cheap do it yourself fix. if you want to have them checked on a balancer without any hassle you can bring them to me at my work in lakewood (discount tire) and i will put them on the balancer for you

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              • blefevre
                R3V Elite
                • Dec 2008
                • 4287

                #8
                Originally posted by E30Dan07
                On a related note, I recently took a set of 15" OZ Racing Vega wheels to Woody's Wheel Works here in Denver to get a quote on powdercoating the centers. They popped them on the balancer for me and determined three of the four were bent (I got them from the car's previous owner). They quoted me well over a hundred a piece just to fix the bends! If you ask me, they weren't wobbling all that much, but man, I could spend less on a brand new set of wheels, especially if I sold them for cheap. Thoughts?
                My friend used true wheel design for powdercoating his M-systems on his E34. I think they run a little on the expensive side but they are really good.

                - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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                • sleepingbeauty
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 399

                  #9
                  guess if you want to keep the rims then you can go that route. otherwise try and do a cheap do it yourself fix. if you want to have them checked on a balancer without any hassle you can bring them to me at my work in lakewood (discount tire) and i will put them on the balancer for you
                  Thanks for the offer, just got it now though. I had already went to the discount tire in boulder and am having it sent out to be fixed.
                  Bought a pair of tires but putting it out there anyway, does anyone have 215/45/17? I need a pair. maybe your discount tire will have some used ones aside?

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                  • E30Dan07
                    Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 69

                    #10
                    Took my wheels to Tru Design Wheel in Denver. Talked to the owner...Jim. They're fixing the three bent wheels for almost half the price of Woody's Wheel Works. Jim's a great guy, knows what he's doing, and has been doing it forever. He even explained to me the different types of "wobbles" a wheel can have as he showed me the wobbles in my wheels. My recommendation will be complete when I get them back early next week!

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                    • Roland H
                      R3V Elite
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4480

                      #11
                      Originally posted by E30Dan07
                      Took my wheels to Tru Design Wheel in Denver. Talked to the owner...Jim. They're fixing the three bent wheels for almost half the price of Woody's Wheel Works. Jim's a great guy, knows what he's doing, and has been doing it forever. He even explained to me the different types of "wobbles" a wheel can have as he showed me the wobbles in my wheels. My recommendation will be complete when I get them back early next week!
                      Would you mind giving us an idea on pricing?

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                      • blefevre
                        R3V Elite
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4287

                        #12
                        Awesome that your getting it done. Jims a cool guy and knows his stuff for sure.

                        - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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                        • E30Dan07
                          Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 69

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Roland H
                          Would you mind giving us an idea on pricing?
                          He took me into his shop as he looked at the wheels, and used an instrument to measure the wobble. Woody's Wheel Works on the other hand just eyeballed it on the balancer and it seemed like they picked their pricing out of thin air, or based upon a guess as to how much I could afford.

                          Two had pretty bad wobbles...these were wobbles that radiated from the center outwards to the rim...picture an ellipse rather than a circle as you're facing the side of the car (but of course not as extreme). He priced these as $100 apiece. Woody's said $140.

                          One had a different wobble. Picture the difference between a normal letter, and an italicized letter, but you're looking at the wheel from the side (like the front of your car, the part hidden by the tire). This is what this wheel looked like (but once again, not as extreme of course). He priced this one at $50. Woody's said $160. Like I said, they were using their eyeballs rather than science.

                          Now I know these descriptions are far from scientific, but I'm trying to give a description of the two types of wobbles and their respective prices. Luckily, the wobbles weren't bad enough to where the 3-piece wheels needed to be disassembled. I went for it b/c in general I like the styling of the wheels, and don't want to be faced with the nearly insurmountable task of choosing from 1000's of other wheels.

                          In a related note, out of curiosity, I asked about his powdercoating pricing. His price was something like $65-$100 per wheel, price depending on if you wanted a clear coat on top. But in order to do this, he'd need to take the 3 piece wheels apart and then reseal them at the end, and for that he'd charge $100 per wheel. This last bit of pricing for powdercoating and resealing 3-pieces is comparable to what I've found elsewhere.

                          So this might be too much info, but I'm of the philosophy that the more you know, the more you'll save.

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                          • Roland H
                            R3V Elite
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4480

                            #14
                            Originally posted by E30Dan07
                            He took me into his shop as he looked at the wheels, and used an instrument to measure the wobble. Woody's Wheel Works on the other hand just eyeballed it on the balancer and it seemed like they picked their pricing out of thin air, or based upon a guess as to how much I could afford.

                            Two had pretty bad wobbles...these were wobbles that radiated from the center outwards to the rim...picture an ellipse rather than a circle as you're facing the side of the car (but of course not as extreme). He priced these as $100 apiece. Woody's said $140.

                            One had a different wobble. Picture the difference between a normal letter, and an italicized letter, but you're looking at the wheel from the side (like the front of your car, the part hidden by the tire). This is what this wheel looked like (but once again, not as extreme of course). He priced this one at $50. Woody's said $160. Like I said, they were using their eyeballs rather than science.

                            Now I know these descriptions are far from scientific, but I'm trying to give a description of the two types of wobbles and their respective prices. Luckily, the wobbles weren't bad enough to where the 3-piece wheels needed to be disassembled. I went for it b/c in general I like the styling of the wheels, and don't want to be faced with the nearly insurmountable task of choosing from 1000's of other wheels.

                            In a related note, out of curiosity, I asked about his powdercoating pricing. His price was something like $65-$100 per wheel, price depending on if you wanted a clear coat on top. But in order to do this, he'd need to take the 3 piece wheels apart and then reseal them at the end, and for that he'd charge $100 per wheel. This last bit of pricing for powdercoating and resealing 3-pieces is comparable to what I've found elsewhere.

                            So this might be too much info, but I'm of the philosophy that the more you know, the more you'll save.
                            Too much info? I couldn't have asked for a better reply! :)

                            $65~$100/wheel for powder-coating is not bad at all either.

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                            • blefevre
                              R3V Elite
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4287

                              #15
                              The M-system powder coating was the full deal, strip, powder, clear, and I think he straightened one for around $420. Once I get a porsche he will be doing the Fuchs widening!

                              - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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