Right to Repair, Ballot Initiative #1

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  • 02robin
    Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 45

    #1

    Right to Repair, Ballot Initiative #1

    Anyone from Massachusetts know the technical details about ballot measure #1 in the upcoming November elections? Good, technical info is pretty light out there and I want to make sure I know what I'm voting on.

    From what I gather, the proposed* legislation would require OEMs to provide indie shops access to an online application that has the same diagnostic and saftey/repair info that dealerships have at a reasonable cost. The onboard info would be pulled from the car via a "J2534 universal pass through interface", meaning that indie shops won't have to shell out for each manufacturer's presumably expensive diagnostic tools and software.

    Supporters say that allowing smaller shops to diagnose and repair cars in a cost efficient manner will save consumers money by not requiring them to go to the dealer. Opponents say that small shops already have access to all the info they need via the aforementioned diagnostic readers and the potential for the disclosure of proprietary information (like key codes) make the proposed legislation unnecessary.

    Specifically, are independent mechanics unduly burdened by current OEM practices? My e30 is my one and only daily, so I've never had to deal with getting an e46 or an e90 serviced. How is this J2534 interface and software supposed to work? Is there already a standard out there? Who's going to standardize it and will it be better than what an OEM can come up with?

    *According to wikipedia, the Mass legistlature passed a Right to Repair bill back in July and it goes into effect November 6, the same day as the election. When Deval signed the bill into law, he made the results of the referendum essentially moot. Why are we doing this, then?

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  • kway
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Feb 2008
    • 1084

    #2
    I still don't get it. I work at an indy shop in Boston, and we've never been hampered by any lack of information. I guess it's opening up manufacturer specific codes as opposed to generic OBD codes?

    Really a non-issue for us, since we have specific diagnostics for BMW and Porsche, which make up probably 98% of our business.
    '84 318i - Lapisblau/Schwarz (in cryosleep)
    '06 330i - Titansilber/Schwarz

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    • 02robin
      Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 45

      #3
      Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. That and the lack of a good technical explanation of the how's and why's of this new interface and standard make me inherently skeptical.

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      • M-technik-3
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Oct 2003
        • 18946

        #4
        It's been dumped from the ballot. Believe it's been passed already from what I heard.
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        • M-technik-3
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Oct 2003
          • 18946

          #5
          Passed on 8/7/12

          8/7/2012 Governor Signed by the Governor, Chapter 241 of the Acts of 2012

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          • jrobie79
            R3VLimited
            • Mar 2006
            • 2520

            #6
            more bureaucracy, there's going to be more govt employees to enforce this, more lobbyists from the auto companies to fight it on a federal level...all in all more government. I dont want to get into a political argument, but it's bad news. Intellectual property is no longer protected, sad precedent it will set
            1991 318is --- currently not road worthy
            1991 318i ---- 308K - retired

            Originally posted by RickSloan
            so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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