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  • G3531
    Noobie
    • Sep 2014
    • 28

    #1

    Hartge Expert, Portland

    Gents,

    I've got a 3 series with a LOT of Hartge pieces. Previous owner claims it was originally a Hartge. Without talking about titles and whatnot (it's complicated, and not relevant), what would be the best identifier to whether or not this E30 was ever an actual Hartge?

    It's reconstructed, and rough. Body panels aren't an option, as the VIN's don't match. There is no VIN plate on the dash, as it appears to be Grey Market. The VIN stamped into the cowelling under the windscreen wiper comes back as "No data" from BMW, and there is another 8 digit number code next to it.
    Can't seem to find any VIN plates in locations not likely affected by collision repair.

    If this ever was a Hartge, I want to get this to someone who'd like to rebuild it, but I'd like to identify it first. If not, someone's getting a really cheap, really cool drift rocket.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
  • e30m3s54turbo
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jun 2010
    • 3195

    #2
    I pm you.
    Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

    DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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    • Wschnitz
      R3V OG
      • Dec 2011
      • 8089

      #3
      ^ this guy knows his shit. There should be a plate somewhere that says hartge. If not its been removed or isn't a real hartge. Just has hartge pieces.
      1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4
      willschnitz

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      • brutus87
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2010
        • 6280

        #4
        Raul is the man.
        sigpic

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        • Matt-B
          The Waffler
          • Jun 2009
          • 3856

          #5
          He registered today to give away a hartge car, hmmmm, yea not fishy 1 bit


          Please leave feedback below, thanks

          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=358170

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          • Wschnitz
            R3V OG
            • Dec 2011
            • 8089

            #6
            Raul if its a H27 kit mind letting me get a chance to grab it? lolol You hoarder.
            1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4
            willschnitz

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            • frankenbeemer
              R3VLimited
              • Sep 2009
              • 2260

              #7
              In before bakery.
              sigpic
              Originally posted by JinormusJ
              Don't buy an e30

              They're stupid
              1989 325is Raged on then sold.
              1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
              1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
              1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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              • e30austin
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Sep 2010
                • 15382

                #8
                I do not believe this car to be a true Hartge car. It has a few cool bits, but is really, really far gone.


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                • e30m3s54turbo
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 3195

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Austin!
                  I do not believe this car to be a true Hartge car. It has a few cool bits, but is really, really far gone.
                  I agree with Austin.
                  Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                  DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                  • e30m3s54turbo
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 3195

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wschnitz
                    Raul if its a H27 kit mind letting me get a chance to grab it? lolol You hoarder.
                    If you are interested in a Hartge body kit? Just pm me for info.
                    Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
                    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
                    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

                    DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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                    • portlandsteve
                      Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 58

                      #11
                      Since we're on the topic, anyone know of an E30 Hartge exhaust for sale?

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                      • G3531
                        Noobie
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 28

                        #12
                        I'll post scans of original papers from Hartge as proof. Owner has them in his possession. It is a reconstructed car, and is a base for a build. This is not a complete Hartge, but it is genuine.

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                        • Wschnitz
                          R3V OG
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 8089

                          #13
                          You should post pics of the car man.
                          1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4
                          willschnitz

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                          • G3531
                            Noobie
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 28

                            #14
                            I absolutely will. As soon as I have the scans, I'll upload the scans and do a full shoot of the car, in all of it's crippled unicorn glory, and a list of discrepancies that I've been able to compile with the help of this rather active community.
                            I'd like to thank Raul for all of his help yesterday, and Austin for coming to check it out and help to point a few things out to me.
                            More to come...

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                            • G3531
                              Noobie
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 28

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Matt-B
                              He registered today to give away a hartge car, hmmmm, yea not fishy 1 bit
                              I joined yesterday to identify and sell the car because I have no personal interest in E30's, but I'm helping the owner make a deal.

                              Don't just take my word for it though. Papers will speak for themselves :D

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