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Old 06-14-2017, 12:36 PM   #1
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Net Neutrality

A place to discuss this in general, as its under threat, yet again, by lobbyists out to turn it into Cable.
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Old 06-14-2017, 02:34 PM   #2
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another attempt by government to control our lives
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:27 PM   #3
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Obviously you have no idea what Net Neutrality is and what it Entails GWB, But ill let you live in your little world as I can do nothing to explain it to you.
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:41 PM   #4
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Woah

nothing happened under O
It's going ok now
Why have any form of govt intervention?
What needs to change?
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:52 PM   #5
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Woah

nothing happened under O
It's going ok now
Why have any form of govt intervention?
What needs to change?
Nothing needs to be changed, Title 2 was a good decision by the FCC under President Obama term. Which was the people of the United States decision with overwhelming support of it in comments.

Now that President Trump has picked a previous Verizon Lawyer as FCC chair, he wants to remove what Americans wanted in favor of 'less consumer protec- err Heavy Handed Government Regulation!'. This way Comcast, Verizon, and so on could continue on with the Idea of Internet Packages (something that was already starting to appear in different forms until the Title 2 Legislation was pushed through).

The fact that you think nothing happened in Obamas 8 year term that would change the situation shows how little you know of Net Neutrality.
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Old 06-16-2017, 08:32 AM   #6
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Woah

nothing happened under O
It's going ok now
Why have any form of govt intervention?
What needs to change?
We had net neutrality under Wheeler's tenure at the FCC and it was good.

This is another case where you don't understand anything about this issue but still bleat out 'govt bad' without utilizing one of your remaining 3 brain cells.
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Old 07-11-2017, 10:36 PM   #7
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Tomorrow is another day that websites will support Strong Net Neutrality.

https://www.fightforthefuture.org/ If you don't know what this means.
https://netneutrality.internetassociation.org/action/

Please, inform yourselves, and ignore the media, especially fox news, in their rhetoric on how this could be bad for you.
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Old 07-12-2017, 09:38 AM   #8
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Don't let the Internet turn into cable, those who think the internet will be fine either way, remember when cable was supposed to be commercial free cause you were paying for it?

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Old 07-12-2017, 10:07 AM   #9
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

I definitely have some reading to do.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:29 AM   #10
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More good reads:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...et-neutrality/

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And to help further stress the importance of net neutrality, here are a few scenarios, each perfectly plausible or already happening, that might be possible if ISPs give up on the attempt to be neutral Internet providers:

*Perhaps you'll one day have to pay your Internet overlords for Ars—or your second-favorite website—content to render quickly. (Or perhaps the sites themselves will need to pay.) Pay up or the site will remain slow. A slow-rendering Ars might push our readers to competing sites that have either ponied up for fast-lane service or didn't need to pay because they were granted free fast-lane access (often called "zero rating") as part of some business deal.

*Perhaps YouTube and Vimeo will count against your data cap—while an ISP's own "preferred" video service won't. (This sort of thing is already common on mobile connections.)

*Perhaps your ISP, under pressure from various industries, simply begins blocking various websites—say, a file-sharing website that some people use for piracy but which you use to share multitrack mixes with your band. Is that a decision you want an ISP to be making?

*Perhaps you'll have trouble watching your favorite video service. Maybe not because your ISP has "blocked" it, but because your ISP limits streaming video bandwidth within its network... which might just happen to benefit its legacy cable TV or IPTV system. (Netflix is so big and has so much leverage that this is not a major worry for the company—but what about the next Netflix?

*Perhaps your ISP will throttle the high-bandwidth BitTorrent file-sharing protocol—or whatever replaces it. (Remember the Comcast BitTorrent debacle that resulted in Comcast paying $16 million?) Or maybe your ISP will just charge you extra to use it.

*Perhaps you'll be bombarded with javascript-injected advertisements overlaid onto Web pages—ads put there by the ISPs. ISPs are already doing this, to some extent, with Internet service doled out for free at coffee houses and airports. And some small ISPs have tried it with home Internet service.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ers-from-isps/
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:37 AM   #11
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I don't get how anyone can't see right through this, ISP's could very easily block content entirely that doesn't give them positive propaganda. Could be further abused politically to only promote certain politicians on their service, blocking all content that could be seen as support of another candidate.

You don't get advertisements when you call someone on the phone, why get them when you search for information on your next research paper, or want to send your family member an email. Why even risk ISPs blocking anything they don't like.
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hurr durr dont want the gubbermint doing anything hurr durr
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Old 07-12-2017, 11:13 AM   #13
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Because Americans are reactionary instead of proactive.

Then when it happens they just go, "Welp, guess that's just how it is now."
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Old 07-12-2017, 11:37 AM   #14
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Because humans tend to be reactionary instead of proactive.

Then when it happens they just go, "Welp, guess that's just how it is now."
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For someone who has not been following this at all and yearns for the yesteryear of the internet's wild west .... how do we get back to letting the be internet great again?
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Stop believing politicians and corporations lies.
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