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Old 05-15-2019, 10:03 AM   #2911
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Starting to look like the Admin will push for War in Iran.

Just what we need, more billions spent on a war with no motive beyond antagonizing the middle east for war profiteers.
The British say they see no increase in Iran's build up.

I'm afraid it's a distraction.

Also on the lies, yes all pols lie, no one has lied at the level, frequency and broad range of topics as Trump.

If Trump told me my name, I'd check my license.
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:23 PM   #2912
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Starting to look like the Admin will push for War in Iran.

Just what we need, more billions spent on a war with no motive beyond antagonizing the middle east for war profiteers.
"Starting?" Ha. This has been the plan all along! This is the worst.

I think a lot of us were like, well, Trump campaigned as an isolationist, he would at least be less Imperialist than Clinton. It's all total BS.

Before he was even elected they were having meetings with the Saudis and the Israelis and the UAE and Erik Prince to gin up a war in Iran.

How on Earth does someone put a complete idiot like John Bolton in power? Trump does. This is a dangerous, score settling, chicken hawk person that should not be anywhere near leading us into war with Iran.

The Trump Admin. is Bush foreign policy all over again and it's a complete mess.
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:22 AM   #2913
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The Trump Admin. is the Military-Industrial Complex foreign policy all over again and it's a complete mess.
Fixed that for you.

Or did you forget all the Libya, Yemen, and the other countries Obama bombed as well?
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:11 PM   #2914
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Iran isn't Iraq, they're a much stronger country.
Also, the Russians wouldn't miss an opportunity to embarrass us. I would fully expect T-14 tanks, S-400 Sam and troops should we try the same shit we did in other parts of the Middle East.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:48 PM   #2915
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Fixed that for you.

Or did you forget all the Libya, Yemen, and the other countries Obama bombed as well?
Gosh, Thanks.
All these regime-change escapades are huge mistakes whether under Obama or under Trump or under Bush or Clinton or Reagan or whatever neo-con / neo-liberal Imperialist President & Administration we have next... But we can speak in generalities and the past, or we can speak in specifics here about Iran and right now.

Most likely the best answer is not to waste time conversing here at all.
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:39 AM   #2916
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I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see a general reshaping of the Middle East through armed conflict in the next 20 years.

I just wish we would stay out of it. It's not like WWII where there was a clear evil in Nazi Germany that needed to be vanquished, both the Saudis and Iranians have deplorable human rights volations, extremist religious laws, and are both very interested in staying regressive. It's not really a win-win for anyone.

We could change our policy to be less dependant on Saudi oil, and restructure our energy systems, but that's a 50-year solution, but I digress.
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