Let’s talk about Antifa.

[Powling]

use quotes if you want, but my riot gear is better than what my cop ex-gf got issued by OPD. that's out of her mouth, not mine. probably better than yours too :P

and like local police, i note that you've got nothing to say about the alt-right coming in from out of town with bats and shields.

LOL you have riot gear?

[cale]

LOL you have riot gear?

Well, it's actually rollerblade gear. But don't you for one second doubt the capabilities of a man wearing it with painted fingernails fighting Nazi's. I hear they're going to start being honored on veterans day too.

Punch and pepper spray random people trying to get to their vehicles, criminal children.

[rhE-30]

Just so we are 100 on who wears the riot gear.

[rhE-30]

Did everybody buy their shirt yet?

[decay]

If you can find another link I'd be glad to look, or tell me what to look for, because I'm not going to give a trash site like Vice clicks for any reason.

all right. as long as i get to call that the ad hominem that it is. but having been on the ground at these protests it's the most honest coverage i've seen yet. as i stated, they gave equal time to the alt-right, and i'd think you'd agree with some of what was said, given that the guy running for office in WA pretty much admitted to tactics of baiting, which is what you're saying we (anti-fascists) are falling for.

i mostly wish you would watch it because you'd see how the black bloc have been portrayed as if they are the entire movement, and they're not.

That was before my time on Earth

imagine my surprise.

They may advocate racial cleansing, but they aren't doing shit. That's the issue, they're literally accomplishing nothing, and they're hurting nobody. Ignore them, and they will eventually die out or fade back even further into obscurity. Until they've got actionable movement on their wishes they've done nothing illegal, and should be able to speak about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

does this fit your definition of actionable movement?

white dude shoots up a black church in an effort to start a race war. are we there yet?

think about this not as if you're a cop- pretend you're an intel guy. the internet as a communication medium can be used to facilitate small terrorist cells- it can also be used to inspire radical acts by mentally ill and untreated individuals.

this is happening in america, and since you police are too busy protecting the reprehensible individuals responsible for it, another solution is needed.

[rhE-30]

If you can find another link I'd be glad to look, or tell me what to look for, because I'm not going to give a trash site like Vice clicks for any reason.

That was before my time on Earth, and that was a good thing for them to do. Protecting Free Speech is important. I should clarify, in modern times nobody gives a shit about far right idiots standing around in parks saluting statues. They weren't in the news. They weren't destroying stuff. If people didn't like them, they didn't participate in their stupid rallies. Now it's become a national pastime to hear about Antifa and these idiots fighting in the streets, while Antifa busts windows in the background or throws rocks at cops.

They may advocate racial cleansing, but they aren't doing shit. That's the issue, they're literally accomplishing nothing, and they're hurting nobody. Ignore them, and they will eventually die out or fade back even further into obscurity. Until they've got actionable movement on their wishes they've done nothing illegal, and should be able to speak about it.

What? Am i reading this correctly? You are saying that it should be okay to spread a message that advocates hateful rhetoic/racial cleansing, and they are doing nothing wrong? Cause some people get that message pretty good, like Dylan Roof, or Tim Mcveigh.

[decay]

Well, it's actually rollerblade gear.

well, it's ackshually a combination of motorcycle gear, SAPI plates, and stuff from US Cavalry that made me go "ooh" when i was gearing up for Standing Rock, and it's as good as or better than what the army issued me while i was deployed.

i have a coworker on my security team- mexican dude from the hood who turned out metalhead. he would put your ass on the ground in a mosh pit, and he paints his nails too. don't know why you're all stuck on that shit. "ooh nice nails" leads to spa day because you know a good place which leads to date night which leads to bow chicka wow wow because you gave a girl a great day, so fuck you, ima keep painting them.

[mrsleeve]

So as usual anti-fa champions of the 1st amendment and free speech........ but only free speech that they agree with or deem no offensive. ANYONE else is meet with violence punched and pepper sprayed, or harassed while enjoying a meal someplace because they hold conservative values..... or say things you guys dont like. People in general dont need you to tell them that racially charged viewpoints are stupid, offensive, and are just a very small fraction of the population that you all keep giving them more and more national media attention to further THEIR cause and get more iditos to join them in defense of the anti-fa...... Durrrrr

Yeah the anti-fa is the antithesis of fascism.

[decay]

we're not casting anywhere near that wide of a net, sleeve.

if you're not a neo-nazi or white supremacist, we're probably okay. sure, there will be other political differences, but nothing worth fighting about.

[mrsleeve]

Yes these are hardly Nazis or white supremacists, just conservatives trying to eat lunch..... while being screamed at and having water dumped on them for not agreeing with your anti-fa groups mantra....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/08/06/conservatives-arent-safe-protesters-swarm-super-pac-leaders-at-a-philadelphia-restaurant/?utm_term=.a4a6b16e9c40

[z31maniac]

we're not casting anywhere near that wide of a net, sleeve.

if you're not a neo-nazi or white supremacist, we're probably okay. sure, there will be other political differences, but nothing worth fighting about.

And this continues to show your lack of intellectual honesty.

Hate speech is protected speech. It's been upheld by the highest court in the land, but like most people on the extremes of BOTH SIDES today it devolves into:

"Well I don't care if it's legal, it shouldn't be legal because I don't like it!"

[Ryan...]

all right. as long as i get to call that the ad hominem that it is. but having been on the ground at these protests it's the most honest coverage i've seen yet. as i stated, they gave equal time to the alt-right, and i'd think you'd agree with some of what was said, given that the guy running for office in WA pretty much admitted to tactics of baiting, which is what you're saying we (anti-fascists) are falling for.

i mostly wish you would watch it because you'd see how the black bloc have been portrayed as if they are the entire movement, and they're not.

I'll take your word for it, I'm not trying to say I think the alt-right is without sin, far from it.

imagine my surprise.

From the quick Google search of trying to find stories about the ACLU and Nazis I saw it happened in '78? I was born in '88, putting me at graceful 29 years on this Earth. If you think my age alone makes me ignorant of the past you'd be sorely mistaken.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

does this fit your definition of actionable movement?

white dude shoots up a black church in an effort to start a race war. are we there yet?

So, one kid with some very obvious mental deficiencies (not an excuse) shoots up a church full of black people.. Was he a frequent attendant at these rallies for the far right? From his Wiki page: He also claimed in the manifesto to have developed his white supremacist views after reading about the 2012 shooting of Trayvon Martin and black-on-white crime.

I don't want my words twisted here 6" down the page, so I'll say it again here; his actions are terrible and I believe Roof should be executed for them. That being said, if you want to attribute every single crime between races that boils down to "I did it because they're *this* color" you'll have to find about another 600,000 Antifa members because you're going to be protesting injustice all over the world, 24/7, until you're 180 years old. Race related violence is nothing new, and it's not going anywhere soon.

think about this not as if you're a cop- pretend you're an intel guy. the internet as a communication medium can be used to facilitate small terrorist cells- it can also be used to inspire radical acts by mentally ill and untreated individuals.

Yes, and it's used to buy/sell drugs and weapons, set up underage prostitution, etc. We're aware. Police and our government alphabet agencies are fighting that every day.

this is happening in america, and since you police are too busy protecting the reprehensible individuals responsible for it, another solution is needed.

You've thrown out the "not all of us" card a couple times. Let me borrow it real quick here... No, police are not "too busy protecting" anyone in these situations. Some police are being told to remove certain people to prevent a full scale riot, it's to make sure nobody else gets hurt in these stupid little showcases of idiocy. Nobody there is without fault, but one group certainly appears to be the predominant aggressor the absolute vast majority of the time. Even with the backing of every major news network, Antifa still shows up looking like a bunch of whiny children breaking shit and trying to silence free speech.

Responses in red.

What? Am i reading this correctly? You are saying that it should be okay to spread a message that advocates hateful rhetoic/racial cleansing, and they are doing nothing wrong? Cause some people get that message pretty good, like Dylan Roof, or Tim Mcveigh.

Legally, they are doing nothing wrong, and their speech should, and is, protected.

I think you should add in all the anti-vaccers into your list along with Roof and McVeigh, they're also spreading misinformation that's killing people and about to bring on mass casualties. Perhaps it's a right wing conspiracy as well!!!

[cale]

well, it's ackshually a combination of motorcycle gear, SAPI plates, and stuff from US Cavalry that made me go "ooh" when i was gearing up for Standing Rock, and it's as good as or better than what the army issued me while i was deployed.

i have a coworker on my security team- mexican dude from the hood who turned out metalhead. he would put your ass on the ground in a mosh pit, and he paints his nails too. don't know why you're all stuck on that shit. "ooh nice nails" leads to spa day because you know a good place which leads to date night which leads to bow chicka wow wow because you gave a girl a great day, so fuck you, ima keep painting them.

I wasn't actually assuming to know the type of dress up gear your guys have, but thanks for the reply.

As for your security specialist operator esthetician, you'll have to forgive me but we won't be having the opportunity to meet. Like kicking and screaming because I'm not getting what I want (Antifa), I gave up other childish things like mosh pits when I grew up. It seems most in your group suffer from some sort of inability to develop beyond their adolescent years.

[decay]

No, police are not "too busy protecting" anyone in these situations.

yes they are, and i have seen it with my own eyes. i'm sorry if you dislike the idea of this happening- so do i- but it is.

[decay]

I wasn't actually assuming to know the type of dress up gear your guys have, but thanks for the reply.

As for your security specialist operator esthetician, you'll have to forgive me but we won't be having the opportunity to meet. Like kicking and screaming because I'm not getting what I want (Antifa), I gave up other childish things like mosh pits when I grew up. It seems most in your group suffer from some sort of inability to develop beyond their adolescent years.

oh, is that why pretty much all of your comments here have been trolly insults?

because you're so fucking mature?

go back to the comments section on youtube, that's more in line with your intellectual level.