Aftermarket (tilton?) brake setup?

[Jean]

Has anyone here done their research on what is a good option out there that can be used in our cars? I have an early car, so there isn't much going on under the dash (not abs computer, no airbag bar/kneepad).

What is a good config out for the money?

[noid]

Are you going for a boosterless setup? the Tilton floor mounted assembly (3 pedal 2 master cylinder for brake+ 1 for clutch) is just down right sexy looking. Other then that im not much help.

Does anyone know what a 6:1 with 2 master cylinders for the brake would feel like in a boosterless setup? To firm for daily driving?

[JGood]

I still haven't discarded this idea yet either.

I like this for easy installation:

https://sites.google.com/site/bmwfabricators/e30-pedal-mount

I don't know anything about these aftermarket setups though.

I *think* it can be used with this?

http://wilwood.com/Pedals/PedalProd.aspx?itemno=340-11299

or this

http://wilwood.com/Pedals/PedalProd.aspx?itemno=340-3342

And 3 of these?

http://wilwood.com/MasterCylinders/MasterCylinderProd.aspx?itemno=260-10374

Bringing the total to $500-$600

[Jean]

Oh wow that e30 pedal mount is nice! thanks for the link, haven't seen it before :)

[JGood]

Oh wow that e30 pedal mount is nice! thanks for the link, haven't seen it before :)

Yeah, he actually posted a for sale thread here:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=223040

[Jean]

Showed this to my codriver must check rule book and then its a go

[bmwmech1]

I'm curious as to how "un-flexi" that mount is. I know I tied my same Wilwood pedal assembly into the rollcage, the dashbar, the firewall and the steering column support and I was still looking for more structure to tie into, just to be sure. Don't get me wrong, I love the design and the simplicity of this piece and how it opens the community to this style of pedal/MC assembly, but you can generate some serious force with your leg while braking. I would like to see it and how/what it mounts to. I looks pretty decent, if it works as well as it looks, then everybody doing a V8 swap needs one!!!

Garey

[Jean]

Yep. I imagine it wont be too hard to 'beef it up'?

What Wilwood pedal assembly do you have?

Is it worth spending the extra on Tilton?

[bmwmech1]

Yep. I imagine it wont be too hard to 'beef it up'?

What Wilwood pedal assembly do you have?

Is it worth spending the extra on Tilton?

I have the newest Wilwood, P/N 340-11299... honestly, I never even looked at anything by Tilton. No reason, other than this Wilwood piece filled all of my requirements and was priced right. I also bought the Wilwood proportioning valve, P/N 260-11179 and still may get the remote balance bar adjuster, just to have it. Nice thing is, you can configure the setup to whatever setup you're running and fine tune the shit out of it. Run a bigger bore MC for fronts, smaller for rears, smallest for clutch, tune the rears with the prop valve and use the balance bar for changing track conditions, if allowed, lol! Pretty slick stuff... I can't wait to get to fiddle with it... once the car is done... if it ever gets done, lol!

Garey

[noid]

Hey guys take a look at this:

http://www.jakelatham.com/radical/info/brake_calculators.shtml

Assuming:

3000lb total weight
1500lb front 1500 rear (50/50 dist)
15" CG (complete guess, maybe someone can clarify)
101.2" wheelbase
1.2G Max braking force
20" tire diameter (rim+tire)


With 6.2:1 ratio
.625 Front master cylinder
.625 Rear master cylinder
Stock caliper (1.9" front 1.3" rear)
Stock rotors (~11" front ~10" back) confirm?
Front and rear pad Radial height (left as 1.8 because im unsure)
.45 front and rear brake pad CF


That means to generate the 2210 lb/ft front and 789lb/ft rear required you could do that with only 56lb of Leg input force. Consider most sedans are ~40 and race cars are 80. That seems daily-able.

If we can refine the inputs maybe we could get an even clearer picture.

[dirty30]

I emailed back and forth with the guy selling the pedal brackets. Unfortunately he had some sort of accident that is preventing him from fabricating. He offered the plans for sale but I was no where near needing them at the time. Now that my e30 is almost done at the body shop I am considering buying the plans from him and maybe making a few runs. Any interest?

[LJ851]

Hey guys take a look at this:

http://www.jakelatham.com/radical/info/brake_calculators.shtml

Assuming:


20" tire diameter (rim+tire)

You may want to double check your math on the tire diameter. Unless of course you are running rubber bands on a 13" wheel (which don't fit over E30 front brakes anyway)

[noid]

You may want to double check your math on the tire diameter. Unless of course you are running rubber bands on a 13" wheel (which don't fit over E30 front brakes anyway)

Opps, your right. On a 15" rim with 205/55/15 tires we are talking 15"+8.86" = ~23.86"

On a 14" rim with 195/65/14 we are talking 14+5"+5" =~24"

So we can generalize and use 24".

[Jean]

I emailed back and forth with the guy selling the pedal brackets. Unfortunately he had some sort of accident that is preventing him from fabricating. He offered the plans for sale but I was no where near needing them at the time. Now that my e30 is almost done at the body shop I am considering buying the plans from him and maybe making a few runs. Any interest?

I would, I should know soon if these will work for me or not.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Would this be the easiest method to adjust pedal position for larger footed drivers or is this gonna bring the pedals further into the footwell in relation to the seat? With this and modified seat rails and an extended steering wheel hub I think I might fit well enough to actually drive my car.