gosh i cant think of a better way to spend $200+ !
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Of course. The authentic is more times than not have higher quality. The thing is though, if you have two items, one is original and the other is a copy but both are equal in construction and quality then what is the point of having an authentic when there is no longer much reason to show for it. Especially if that copy can be sourced for cheaper for whatever the reason. It doesn't matter what the product is, if the fake can perform the exact same functions in the same manner as the original then the point in having the original is mostly lost.1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.
Originally posted by DEV0 E30Comment
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^ but alot of this stuff is just because its rare or collectable, not so if a rep is made in numbers
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If you owned alot of real Alpina parts like me then having real Alpina parts make the difference. Its like saying hey I have Kopis, eurostop Alpina fiberglass airdam, Ebay Alpina badges and saying you have all Alpina parts. If this was $100 I would have bought it in a heartbeat but for me to spend the little extra for the real deal it is worth it. Cant wait to see what this auction goes to. BTW there was a guy selling a new real one on ebay for $450, it never sold over many months of relists.Comment
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I agree. I prefer to have authentic ones myself. But the example of the ACS pedals, if the only way you can tell the real for fakes is paperwork they came with, then wouldn't most of the point in having the authentic ones be lost? In the case of Kopi's and such there are differences to the Alpina's. If you have such a perfect copy one could very easily pass them off as an original. I suppose there is a certain point where it can go from being sensible to being ridiculous.1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.
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It looks like a $100 item to me. The real thing is a different story, some people have to have real and and if it's a rare and desirable item the sky is the limit.Comment
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that reproduction is amazing. as mentioned above, i am in when they start selling around 100.00.sigpic
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88 cabrio becoming alpina b6 3.5s transplanted s62
92 Mtech 2 cabrio alpinweiss 770 code
88 325ix coupe manual lachsilber/cardinal
88 325ix coupe manual diamondschwartz/natur
87 e30 m3 for parts lachsilber/cardinal(serial number 7)
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Its not about function... Its about buying a special part from a respected manufacturer that ACTUALLY DESIGNED it in the first place. You buy a piece of the history of Alpina and the decades of research, development, motorsport and support on and for BMW's of all kinds. Alpina is one of the few companies that still supports the e30 chasis with the same parts they put out in the 80's.
Buying replicas discourages these companies from supporting older models. It also takes money out of the pockets of the companies that design the part in the first place. ACS is in rough finacial shape and one of the reasons they state for this is that people are buying fake parts in stead of theirs. They cant recover the money they spend on RandD and thus lose money. All the people on ebay have to do is buy a set and copy. Its not about the part. Its the name and the history associated with it.e30sport.net
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'89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
'06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
'19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
'94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
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If you guys look closely it seems like the seller is running up the price with a different user account. It went from $100 to $200 then to $225 from the same user name. And that username has a 60% of all it's bid activity exclusively with this seller and has 8 bid retractions in the last 6 months which is a dead giveaway of shill bidding. The seller is just trying to establish a fake blown up "market price" to unload his replicas. So don't be fooled. FYI, you can buy this pedal from KSK in all it's Alpina Original-ness for $240.Comment
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He's not bidding on different accounts, and you can't get it from KSK. Go ahead and try.
I understand what you're saying with this, but when it's an NLA part that's being reproduced, it's not stealing business from Alpina. If it were still available, you could look at it that way, but then again, you could look at it from the perspective that by buying an "Alpina replica", it's an advertisement for real Alpina products in its own. It really depends how the situation is viewed.Buying replicas discourages these companies from supporting older models. It also takes money out of the pockets of the companies that design the part in the first place. ACS is in rough finacial shape and one of the reasons they state for this is that people are buying fake parts in stead of theirs. They cant recover the money they spend on RandD and thus lose money. All the people on ebay have to do is buy a set and copy. Its not about the part. Its the name and the history associated with it.Comment
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Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205
OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827Comment
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e30sport.net
'86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
'89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
'06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
'19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
'94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
'97 Range Rover VitesseComment
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Are you talking about the e28 or the e30 pedal? Like the auction says it's modelled after the e28 pedal which is identical to the e9 coupe pedal. The e30 alpina dead pedal was a completely different part number, I don't know if that's available or not, judging from what you said it is. But when he says long NLA, it's going off an e28 pedal, which is in fact long NLA.
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