needle bearing roller rockers for m20 anyone?

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  • whatt18yahoo
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    • Jun 2009
    • 619

    #16
    and that is a shame for those who wont spend the money on a product that is supremely beneficial for power oriented people

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34827

      #17
      like I said if it were beneficial PPF would have brought them to the market instead of redesigning them as regular billet rockers. They've also built M20s that make way more power than your pile of shit ever will, magic roller rockers or not.
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      • whatt18yahoo
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        • Jun 2009
        • 619

        #18
        how cute ... you worship ppf as if they are the gods let me guess chris bengal is your boyfriend?

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        • Brian D
          E30 Modder
          • Mar 2006
          • 832

          #19
          Originally posted by whatt18yahoo
          how cute ... you worship ppf as if they are the gods let me guess chris bengal is your boyfriend?
          I think maybe you're getting away from the original point of your thread.

          If you cooked up something for M30's I'd be more interested.
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          • JasonC
            Site Manager
            • Aug 2006
            • 14451

            #20
            Originally posted by whatt18yahoo
            how cute ... you worship ppf as if they are the gods let me guess chris bengal is your boyfriend?
            Why don't you pull your head out of your ass, boy. If you was smart, you'd let Harland Sharp figure out if they could make a roller rocker for an m20. Then let everyone know if they did or not. Instead of acting like they have them in final production.

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            • whatt18yahoo
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              • Jun 2009
              • 619

              #21
              hey brian i just found out that the m10 and m30 rockers are the same. they are close to m20 but not quite the same. meaning harland sharp would probably take on the project if you sent them a request but i won't be involved

              whats more is that for my project i am sending them a completed head, at my own expense. i just care about getting these rockers for my own use. i just figured that seen as how i am having soome made for me other folks might be interested, if not thats youur thing i don't care what anyone says or thinks its not your money so who cares.
              Last edited by whatt18yahoo; 12-23-2009, 06:41 PM.

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              • accident
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2008
                • 7303

                #22
                subscribed.

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                • Massive Lee
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                  • Sep 2006
                  • 6782

                  #23
                  I am curious how using roller bearings is any better over the regular bushings? What's your point of view? On the M20, the problem lies with the leverage, which is why they break. It is much higher than on an M10/M30 rocker arms. My M10 race engines would rev to 8000rpm without breaking rockers.
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                  • oh2fly
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 519

                    #24
                    Lee, those aren't stock rockers on your m10 are they? My own tii would pop polished rockers at 7800. There is a need for better rocker arms on m20s. The question is how many sets need to be spoken for to make this work? This site has so much potential if we can just get past all the childish b.s.
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                    • whatt18yahoo
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 619

                      #25
                      well for starters i think to save on cost we might keep the regular bushings but if we were to change it is a reduction of friction nothing more nothing less whats more is the billet 2024 aluminum will more that compensate for any problems

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                      • whatt18yahoo
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                        • Jun 2009
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by oh2fly
                        Lee, those aren't stock rockers on your m10 are they? My own tii would pop polished rockers at 7800. There is a need for better rocker arms on m20s. The question is how many sets need to be spoken for to make this work? This site has so much potential if we can just get past all the childish b.s.


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                        who is interested how many sets are u interested in

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                        • Massive Lee
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                          • Sep 2006
                          • 6782

                          #27
                          Originally posted by oh2fly
                          Lee, those aren't stock rockers on your m10 are they? My own tii would pop polished rockers at 7800. There is a need for better rocker arms on m20s. The question is how many sets need to be spoken for to make this work? This site has so much potential if we can just get past all the childish b.s.
                          My M10 had hand-picked rocker arms from a parts recycling bin. Then I checked them for tighteness in the bushing, and slightly polished them to remove any stress riser. Valve springs were TiSA springs (from Jeff Ireland). The M10 rocker arms are much less stressed than the M20 units as they have a 1 : 1.25 ratio vs the M20's 1 : 1.5, which is the cause of the failure.

                          I guess that everyone is waiting for some testing on actual rockers to be done.
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                          • JasonC
                            Site Manager
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 14451

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Massive Lee
                            I guess that everyone is waiting for some testing on actual rockers to be done.
                            This..... And to see prototypes and what not.


                            And yes, i have a set of Harland Sharps. They are for a SBC but i havn't got to use them yet, due to my constant setbacks of getting the motor done for my truck.

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                            • nando
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 34827

                              #29
                              Originally posted by whatt18yahoo
                              how cute ... you worship ppf as if they are the gods let me guess chris bengal is your boyfriend?
                              who?



                              there are like 5 different upgraded rockers you can already get for the M20. you're trying to reinvent the wheel, and you don't even know it's supposed to be round.
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                              • whatt18yahoo
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 619

                                #30
                                no the problem is that no matter what you choose no matter who makes it already its not yet round "roller tip" so grow up and shut up

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