Anyone got their 16 x 7's yet???
Kopi Wheel Group Buy - 15",16",17" and 18"
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Mel Abrahams
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I love your wheel studs - looks like sex - totally distracts from the 5 lug-ness of the mold. Who made them?Originally posted by Matt-Bhey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?Comment
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mel, your lying about the TUV papers. if you have some, they are not from TUV sud- which is the real deal here in germany. noone in germany runs those wheels because they arent allowed here.
why dont you scan it, and post it here.
not trying to start anything, but I would love to see the paperwork too.Comment
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Thanks for accusing me of lying - you have no idea what you're talking about.
We sold about 6 sets to customers in Germany and they are using them.
TUV had tested the wheels in South Africa where they have/had a branch and issued the TUV certificate in 2001.
The wheels are made in South Africa - thus the test was done there.
I have the report for the bending fatigue test.
It was done by TUV Bavaria S.A. (Pty) Ltd., a subsidiary of TUV Automotive GmbH on Nov. 22, 2001.
The ID number for the test is:1775ALP355114
Again-anyone that wants a copy, I will fax it to them - including you in Germany - PM me your Fax number.
I do not have a scanner but will try to get it scanned this week.
The test was done on a 17" x 7.5" wheel 5 x 120 ET35
mel, your lying about the TUV papers. if you have some, they are not from TUV sud- which is the real deal here in germany. noone in germany runs those wheels because they arent allowed here.
why dont you scan it, and post it here.
not trying to start anything, but I would love to see the paperwork too.Last edited by BMWE34M5; 01-13-2008, 12:10 PM.Mel Abrahams
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Mel,
After all this pages of this mudfest, I finally get/see what the problem is. (5 lug indentation on a 4 lug wheel). Do we get the cover as shown on post #41? (I hope we do). If yes, does it really matter having the 5 lug mold on a 4 lug wheel? (I know it shouldn't be there). Hope it gets fixed for the 16's.Comment
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You either want the wheels or not - stop all the bitching - if you dont like em dont buy em - or for that matter go make your own.Comment
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I honestly believe the 5 lug indentation will only affect the cosmetic appearance of the wheel without the caps and not the structural integrity of it in any way. Yes it sucks for those who wanna run without caps, or if you won't want to explain why to your discriminating buddies why the 5 indents and only 4 lugs. They are still well priced wheels, but the customer has to be aware of the issue before buying them, that's to me the only thing Mel did wrong. It would have simply been fixed if they had a better website with more detailed pictures. I'm getting a set of 16 x 7 kopis once I see a picture of them although it SUCKS from the get go they are not at least 16 x 7.5Comment
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What the customers expect - everything like the "old Kopi" wheels
What they need to know:
- not hubcentric and requires rings to run
- five lug pattern for a four lug wheel was different from older style, and this will be a mood point, but its a big mood point depending who it is.
- some brake pads will rub...
now thats alot... I mean I have worked at sales, I'm first to say if he stated all these things prior to every inquiry he would sell zero wheels; literally. But I feel that in a group buy scenario thats a bit different and that all item should be disclosed considering that you are pushing for a sale of wheels that not only is not the same spec as prior wheels, but have cosmetic differences that people do not know about.
Just because certain problems have solution - aka filling down the pads - it doesnt mean its okay to not disclose it. Also if Mel said he doesnt know, No one should be questioning his integrity as he may very well be telling the truth, but we really should be questioning his competency in regards to the mfg quality control of this product in specific.
It is misleading and false advertisement when it is repeated over and over again as "the same wheel we have been selling for the past "x" amount of year" and it really isnt.
Last edited by thereisnoyun; 01-14-2008, 06:37 AM.Comment
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Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
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Kopi wheels
I understand the complaining regarding the change in the hub design of the 17" Kopi wheels.
You have a valid reason to complain.
As explained before, the factory did not notify us about this change and we only became aware of it after reading about it on the forum.
We receive the wheels with the caps attached and upon inspection before shipping, it was not noticed that the hub design was any different.
We have instructed the factory to make hubs on the 16" Kopi wheels and all future 4 lug 17" Kopi wheels the old way.
We are also trying to get some sort of compensation from the factory that we can pass on to those that have the 5 lug hub design on their 4 lug wheels.
The 15" Kopi wheels that we have in stock all have the old style 4 lug hubs.
Again-we are 100% confident that the quality of the new Kopi wheels is as good as the originals we bought over 5 years ago and the hub design does not effect the integrity of the wheel, only the cosmetics with the cap removed.Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
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Yes-the cover is included - these Alpina Classic replicas were meant to be used with the covers attached, though some prefer to run them without covers.
And yes, we have instructed the factory to make the 16" Kopi wheels the original way that the 4 lug wheels were made.
Mel,
After all this pages of this mudfest, I finally get/see what the problem is. (5 lug indentation on a 4 lug wheel). Do we get the cover as shown on post #41? (I hope we do). If yes, does it really matter having the 5 lug mold on a 4 lug wheel? (I know it shouldn't be there). Hope it gets fixed for the 16's.Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
E-mail:sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
PayPal to:
order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
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Phone:727-992-0288
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TUV in south africa is not the TUV you are pretending it to be. TUV that everyone wants to know about is the real deal here in Germany.
TUV is in Germany, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Africa.
like I said in the Pm to you, a friend of mine bought your wheels here, and he cannot get those wheels aproved here in germany.
now the wheels are O.K. actually great. he is very happy with them- he bought them with the knowledge of them not being approved here in germany-
TUV Bavaria S.A.-- how funny, even that is a way of faking the real deal- trying to sound like germany
the papers are just like the wheels, imitations- which is fine, but get it right about the TUV germany part.Comment
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