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Kopi Wheel Group Buy - 15",16",17" and 18"
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Our supplier who manufactures the wheels told us that the bending/fatigue tests were conducted under the same conditions as the tests performed in Germany.
The report is on a TUV letterhead. The letterhead says that TUV Bavaria is a subsidiary of TUV Automotive GmbH.
My main concern was whether the wheels passed stressful bend/fatigue tests - which they did.
As for selling the wheels in Germany, that is a moot point as we seldom get inquiries from there and have only sold roughly 6 sets there in over 5 years.
The wheels have passed TUV testing - maybe not in Germany, but under similar conditions conducted under the supervision of TUV in South Africa.
Again-I will Fax you a copy of the certificate if you can provide me with your Fax. number.
And BTW - the papers are not fake - it is the real deal.
I'm glad your friend likes the wheels.
TUV in south africa is not the TUV you are pretending it to be. TUV that everyone wants to know about is the real deal here in Germany.
TUV is in Germany, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Africa.
like I said in the Pm to you, a friend of mine bought your wheels here, and he cannot get those wheels aproved here in germany.
now the wheels are O.K. actually great. he is very happy with them- he bought them with the knowledge of them not being approved here in germany-
TUV Bavaria S.A.-- how funny, even that is a way of faking the real deal- trying to sound like germany
the papers are just like the wheels, imitations- which is fine, but get it right about the TUV germany part.Mel Abrahams
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Our supplier who manufactures the wheels told us that the bending/fatigue tests were conducted under the same conditions as the tests performed in Germany.
The report is on a TUV letterhead. The letterhead says that TUV Bavaria is a subsidiary of TUV Automotive GmbH.
My main concern was whether the wheels passed stressful bend/fatigue tests - which they did.
As for selling the wheels in Germany, that is a moot point as we seldom get inquiries from there and have only sold roughly 6 sets there in over 5 years.
The wheels have passed TUV testing - maybe not in Germany, but under similar conditions conducted under the supervision of TUV in South Africa.
Again-I will Fax you a copy of the certificate if you can provide me with your Fax. number.
And BTW - the papers are not fake - it is the real deal.
I'm glad your friend likes the wheels.
"We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."Comment
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Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
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And now its "I don't care about germany because I've only sold a few sets"
so - Quick question - Are they TUV approved in Germany or not?"We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."Comment
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As far as I know-the wheels were never tested by TUV in Germany, only by TUV in South Africa - a subsidiary of TUV Germany. Whether the TUV certificate issued in South Africa is acceptable for the German inspections, I do not know.
It sounds like it is not according to our German friend.
Again - I was told by the manufacturer that the TUV tests were similar to the ones conducted in Germany.
The tests were not done to be able to sell the wheels in Germany but to see whether they passed the stressful bend/fatigue tests.
The TUV certificate issued in South Africa is proof that the wheels were durable - that's all.
We mention this on our website - not to sell the wheels in Germany but to re-inforce the fact that the wheels are well made.
On a side note - I had a BBS CH wheel (TUV approved in Germany and about 3 times the cost of a Kopi wheel) bend after hitting a small pothole.
Mel Abrahams
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Mel if I were you I would be certain the factory understands what the issue is and wouldn't accept anything else from them as long as you phisically verify the issues have been solved in the new production. And that includes test fitting them with new pads so that you are certain they don't rub. I am more concerned about the 16 x 7 but since the company has already tried to con you, you can't never be too sure. I just hope the 16's are hubcentric, with no 5 lug indentation and fully clear the calipers with new pads.Comment
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The only way that we will accept the 16" Kopi wheels is if they are made like the original Kopi wheels.
The factory was made aware of it.
The pad issue only happens with some brand new aftermarket front pads that have a different shape to the OEM ones.They seem to be thicker than the OEM pads.
This is solved by using a dremel and grinding a very small part of the backing plate off.
Mel if I were you I would be certain the factory understands what the issue is and wouldn't accept anything else from them as long as you phisically verify the issues have been solved in the new production. And that includes test fitting them with new pads so that you are certain they don't rub. I am more concerned about the 16 x 7 but since the company has already tried to con you, you can't never be too sure. I just hope the 16's are hubcentric, with no 5 lug indentation and fully clear the calipers with new pads.Mel Abrahams
Abrahams Motorsport
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OT, Mel, how much does one 17" wheel weigh without tire?1989 Bronzit 325ia- Sold
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So what's the deal with the quality of these wheels?
If we do another group buy, will the wheels look like and fit hubcentrically like the older style KOPI's? I'm mainly talking 17x7.5 ET20.Recent Rebranding!!
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Mel Abrahams
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We first have to sell the ones we have before we get more in.
Our next order will have the 57.1mm hubs like the old ones.
Mel Abrahams
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