Kopi Wheel Group Buy - 15",16",17" and 18"

[e30rida]

So if that's the case they will go down when the dollar gains back some ground? Otherwise this just sounds like your way to make up for the previous batch screw up.

[BMWE34M5]

Our next shipment will have the old style hubs but unfortunately they will cost more due to a price increase and the weak Dollar.
We expect the 17" x 7.5" Kopi wheels to sell for about $229 each when we get them in again.

[george graves]

What about the 5 lug indentations? Will those be gone as well? Sure hope so.

I hope so - I'm looking into these rims as well - once the problems are fixed

[e30rida]

Our next order will have the 57.1mm hubs like the old ones.

What about the 5 lug indentations? Will those be gone as well? Sure hope so.

[BMWE34M5]

We first have to sell the ones we have before we get more in.
Our next order will have the 57.1mm hubs like the old ones.

So what's the deal with the quality of these wheels?

If we do another group buy, will the wheels look like and fit hubcentrically like the older style KOPI's? I'm mainly talking 17x7.5 ET20.

[BMWE34M5]

About 21 lbs.

OT, Mel, how much does one 17" wheel weigh without tire?

[Garageaholic]

So what's the deal with the quality of these wheels?

If we do another group buy, will the wheels look like and fit hubcentrically like the older style KOPI's? I'm mainly talking 17x7.5 ET20.

[T3rd Ferguson]

OT, Mel, how much does one 17" wheel weigh without tire?

[Cruzer]

TUV in south africa is not the TUV you are pretending it to be. TUV that everyone wants to know about is the real deal here in Germany.

TUV is in Germany, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Africa.

Check again. This doesn't prove anything except that there is a TUV subsidiary in South Africa. Mel's explanation is plausible. Scan the site and you'll find all sorts of automotive and manufacturing certifications.

http://www.tuv.com/za/en/index.html

TÜV Rheinland Group South Africa


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TÜV Rheinland South Africa is member of Group TÜV Rheinland Group, a global leader in independent testing and assessment services. More than 10 000 motivated and qualified employees assist our clients in nearly all economic centers of the world - at over 300 locations.
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[BMWE34M5]

The only way that we will accept the 16" Kopi wheels is if they are made like the original Kopi wheels.
The factory was made aware of it.
The pad issue only happens with some brand new aftermarket front pads that have a different shape to the OEM ones.They seem to be thicker than the OEM pads.
This is solved by using a dremel and grinding a very small part of the backing plate off.

Mel if I were you I would be certain the factory understands what the issue is and wouldn't accept anything else from them as long as you phisically verify the issues have been solved in the new production. And that includes test fitting them with new pads so that you are certain they don't rub. I am more concerned about the 16 x 7 but since the company has already tried to con you, you can't never be too sure. I just hope the 16's are hubcentric, with no 5 lug indentation and fully clear the calipers with new pads.

[e30rida]

Mel if I were you I would be certain the factory understands what the issue is and wouldn't accept anything else from them as long as you phisically verify the issues have been solved in the new production. And that includes test fitting them with new pads so that you are certain they don't rub. I am more concerned about the 16 x 7 but since the company has already tried to con you, you can't never be too sure. I just hope the 16's are hubcentric, with no 5 lug indentation and fully clear the calipers with new pads.

[BMWE34M5]

As far as I know-the wheels were never tested by TUV in Germany, only by TUV in South Africa - a subsidiary of TUV Germany. Whether the TUV certificate issued in South Africa is acceptable for the German inspections, I do not know.
It sounds like it is not according to our German friend.
Again - I was told by the manufacturer that the TUV tests were similar to the ones conducted in Germany.
The tests were not done to be able to sell the wheels in Germany but to see whether they passed the stressful bend/fatigue tests.
The TUV certificate issued in South Africa is proof that the wheels were durable - that's all.
We mention this on our website - not to sell the wheels in Germany but to re-inforce the fact that the wheels are well made.
On a side note - I had a BBS CH wheel (TUV approved in Germany and about 3 times the cost of a Kopi wheel) bend after hitting a small pothole.

Dude, Man up. This "They told me it's the same standards as germany" crap doesn't hold water.

And now its "I don't care about germany because I've only sold a few sets"

so - Quick question - Are they TUV approved in Germany or not?

[Turf1600]

Actually he was unaware of the fact that TUV conducted a test thru their subsidiary in South Africa - thus my statement.

Dude, Man up. This "They told me it's the same standards as germany" crap doesn't hold water.

And now its "I don't care about germany because I've only sold a few sets"

so - Quick question - Are they TUV approved in Germany or not?

[BMWE34M5]

Actually he was unaware of the fact that TUV conducted a test thru their subsidiary in South Africa - thus my statement.

May want to retract this statement. You insulted someone who was correct about your product.

[Turf1600]

Our supplier who manufactures the wheels told us that the bending/fatigue tests were conducted under the same conditions as the tests performed in Germany.
The report is on a TUV letterhead. The letterhead says that TUV Bavaria is a subsidiary of TUV Automotive GmbH.
My main concern was whether the wheels passed stressful bend/fatigue tests - which they did.
As for selling the wheels in Germany, that is a moot point as we seldom get inquiries from there and have only sold roughly 6 sets there in over 5 years.
The wheels have passed TUV testing - maybe not in Germany, but under similar conditions conducted under the supervision of TUV in South Africa.
Again-I will Fax you a copy of the certificate if you can provide me with your Fax. number.
And BTW - the papers are not fake - it is the real deal.
I'm glad your friend likes the wheels.

May want to retract this statement. You insulted someone who was correct about your product.

you have no idea what you're talking about.