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  • Bishop
    R3V Elite
    • May 2009
    • 4913

    #991
    lol I'm not gonna burn. It still looks good .

    Did you notice the wheels and tires making the car feel a little sluggish or different from your other wheels? It may just be me, but it seems a little more sluggish than when I have the bottlecaps on. Not a big deal, It just means I need 24v sooner. You said it in the 17" thread, tires don't last forever lol, there's always room to improve. I don't think you're as low as me in the rear too so it looks like you have way more clearance. I still need to really scrape / roll my rears, then I think I'm gonna bring the whole car down a little more.

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    "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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    • Hodge
      E30 Addict
      • Jun 2008
      • 424

      #992
      Thanks NG!

      Very informative...looks like way more room than I had measured for. I am way lower front and rear though.

      My rear fenders are also rolled like that. That's just how they are stock.
      E30- 1989 325is

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      • PaintPro21
        Mod Crazy
        • Jul 2007
        • 660

        #993
        Originally posted by Bishop
        lol I'm not gonna burn. It still looks good .

        Did you notice the wheels and tires making the car feel a little sluggish or different from your other wheels? It may just be me, but it seems a little more sluggish than when I have the bottlecaps on. Not a big deal, It just means I need 24v sooner. You said it in the 17" thread, tires don't last forever lol, there's always room to improve. I don't think you're as low as me in the rear too so it looks like you have way more clearance. I still need to really scrape / roll my rears, then I think I'm gonna bring the whole car down a little more.
        If the tire has a larger overall diameter then it changed your gearing, and you'll accelerate a little slower. This is a totally worthwhile compromise for the amount of grip you get while in a turn though. 215's are shorter then what comes stock on the e30 m3. I don't know what stock is on the regular e30, but if it's the same then the 215 will have more aggressive gearing (again we are talking about a 1-2% change in diameter.

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        • Hodge
          E30 Addict
          • Jun 2008
          • 424

          #994
          Originally posted by PaintPro21
          If the tire has a larger overall diameter then it changed your gearing, and you'll accelerate a little slower. This is a totally worthwhile compromise for the amount of grip you get while in a turn though. 215's are shorter then what comes stock on the e30 m3. I don't know what stock is on the regular e30, but if it's the same then the 215 will have more aggressive gearing (again we are talking about a 1-2% change in diameter.
          Most stock e30's size was 195/65/14...SHould be fairly close to 215/40/17

          I rin 195/60/14 on my weaves, and wanted to stick as close to that size as possible. 205/40/17 is 3/10ths larger overall than 195/60/14.
          E30- 1989 325is

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          • ngcreese
            Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 75

            #995
            Originally posted by Hodge
            Thanks NG!

            Very informative...looks like way more room than I had measured for. I am way lower front and rear though.

            My rear fenders are also rolled like that. That's just how they are stock.
            I'm glad those pics helped out!
            1991 325i
            With mods...

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            • Bishop
              R3V Elite
              • May 2009
              • 4913

              #996
              Originally posted by PaintPro21
              If the tire has a larger overall diameter then it changed your gearing, and you'll accelerate a little slower. This is a totally worthwhile compromise for the amount of grip you get while in a turn though. 215's are shorter then what comes stock on the e30 m3. I don't know what stock is on the regular e30, but if it's the same then the 215 will have more aggressive gearing (again we are talking about a 1-2% change in diameter.
              Thanks Eddy, I understand that, I might just be overly critical and think it's effecting the car more than it is just because they're so big, but I think the 325/40 is only like 1.8% over stock? I don't remember, I'd have to look.

              Anyone have the tire conversion / calculator link handy?

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              Originally posted by DTM190
              "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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              • ngcreese
                Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 75

                #997
                Originally posted by Bishop
                lol I'm not gonna burn. It still looks good .

                Did you notice the wheels and tires making the car feel a little sluggish or different from your other wheels? It may just be me, but it seems a little more sluggish than when I have the bottlecaps on. Not a big deal, It just means I need 24v sooner. You said it in the 17" thread, tires don't last forever lol, there's always room to improve. I don't think you're as low as me in the rear too so it looks like you have way more clearance. I still need to really scrape / roll my rears, then I think I'm gonna bring the whole car down a little more.
                Bishop I went over to 1010tires.com to use their tire size calculator to pick my tires. What I noticed from their calculations was the following:

                Compared to the 195/65/14 tire...
                The circumference of the 215/40/17 is .887% less.
                The circumference of the 235/40/17 is 1.748% more.

                195s... 867.3 revs per mile.
                215s... 875 revs per mile.
                235s... 852 revs per mile.

                I thought it was my imagination, but you'll get a bit more acceleration vs stock, with a 215 and a little less acceleration with the 235. The trade off is that 235s will give you better fuel economy and crazy freaky grippy cornering.

                My car did feel a bit more spirited, but I thought it was just my imagination. None of this will really matter when you do your 24v swap.
                Last edited by ngcreese; 10-18-2009, 06:54 PM.
                1991 325i
                With mods...

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                • Bishop
                  R3V Elite
                  • May 2009
                  • 4913

                  #998
                  Yeah, I knew it was close to 1.8%. I'm not worried, cause I know my car corners like a go-kart now. And yeah.... I gotta figure out this whole 24v dilema..

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                  Originally posted by DTM190
                  "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                  • bunteh
                    Noobie
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 31

                    #999
                    So I still have a few weeks before my wheels arrive, how are everyone else's faring?

                    also slightly cut as the wheels would have been $150 cheaper if i bought them today!

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                    • Bishop
                      R3V Elite
                      • May 2009
                      • 4913

                      #1000
                      That sucks bro. We had one little bit of weather and I put the caps back on, but it's been warm since so I swapped back. Rain last night so I think my days are numbered again... So far, I don't think mine are bent or anything (lotsa construction around here) and I still like em. Only downside? I'm lazy and haven't washed em really at all so they look a little dirty.

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                      Originally posted by DTM190
                      "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                      • ngcreese
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 75

                        #1001
                        Originally posted by bunteh
                        So I still have a few weeks before my wheels arrive, how are everyone else's faring?

                        also slightly cut as the wheels would have been $150 cheaper if i bought them today!

                        Your wheels are on the slow boat, ehh? Man, you'll be happy when they get there! I love these wheels! Very smooth, and so far strong and straight. No complaints after ~1000 miles of driving. I keep going outside to look at them. I'm keeping mine on through the winter, I think. Not much snow here to speak of.
                        1991 325i
                        With mods...

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                        • PaintPro21
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 660

                          #1002
                          A few pics of the APEX M3 running the 5 lug ARC-8 wheels with Nitto NT-01's












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                          • cmflossin
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 138

                            #1003
                            brunette at the driver's door. dayum.

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                            • PaintPro21
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 660

                              #1004
                              Originally posted by cmflossin
                              brunette at the driver's door. dayum.
                              better pick of the brunette


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                              • cmflossin
                                Advanced Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 138

                                #1005
                                gracias.

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