Mario Langston-VSR

[UNHCLL]

I'll take the blame for the UPS deal...but, my dad (who does work for UPS) has relayed to me that their excuse will most definitely be insufficient packing, and they're crystal clear out of the deal. Also, people would be surprised how little UPS employees get in the form of discounts/string pulling, you're still treated as a customer.

Mitchell Morrison(Mitch M) who's been in a very similar situation, went through the same deal.

Listen, i'm not asking for new seats man...but there should be some kind of reparation for your dad's mistake. When I posted this, I never attempted to drag you into the deal, so please don't take it that way.

I was not insinuating that you had extra leverage because your father worked for UPS. I was simply pointing out, that you should have been better situated to file the claim. I am still failing to understand how throwing the box out, and being un-able to support the now "alleged" poor packaging results in my father having to refund part of your cost?

You threw out the evidence of poor handling.... If this was a legitimate legal case in the court, do the prosecutors get to say:
"OOOps, we lost our evidence, can we just agree on a 5 year sentence anyways?"

I dont think so.


Again, You did not "drag" me into this. This is a matter of business, not a matter of friendship/comradarie/personal vendetta. I am here only as an entity to end the slanderous and in-accurate statements you are alleging.


Respectfully,
Christopher L.

[bmwm3n528]

Reparations? Did Mario enslave your people for 400 years?

-The act or process of repairing or the condition of being repaired

-Something done or paid to compensate or make amends

[bmwm3n528]

I am here only as an entity to end the slanderous and in-accurate statements you are alleging.

I've mispelled your last name and misunderstood a couple of your comments...are these the 'slanderous and in-accurate statements' that I continue to post?

[jajou318]

At least search before posting this shit.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=58265

HAHAHHAHAHaa

ha.

[bmwm3n528]

At least search before posting this shit.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=58265

HAHAHHAHAHaa

ha.

Yeah, I previously searched 'Mario Langsten', but nothing came up.

Excuse my mistake.

[Rob]

-The act or process of repairing or the condition of being repaired

-Something done or paid to compensate or make amends

It was a joke tough guy.

[UNHCLL]

I've mispelled your last name and misunderstood a couple of your comments...are these the 'slanderous and in-accurate statements' that I continue to post?

No, the act of attempting to discredit the company, and one mans reputation is slanderous.

The fact you are attempting to pass off a 3rd parties destruction of YOUR property as fault of a business other than the 3rd party is slanderous and in-accurate.


When attacking the credibility and commercial transactions of a business, insinuating they failed to live up to the standards... and then blaming them for the destruction of property based on a 3rd party.... That is in-accurate, slanderous, and downright irresponsible.

Perhaps that is more clear as to what I was refering to?

Respectfully,
Christopher L.

[C ///M]

I still hope you get some compensation from UPS.

I got a complete set of M3 seats about 5-6 years ago. They arrived in 2 boxes, one box for the 2 rear seat peices, and one box for the fronts.

There was no padding, just the box. The box said fragile. Parts of the seats were actually sticking through the box a little, but overall the box was free of dents/scratches/signs of wear and the seats were perfect.

All I can say is those seats were perfect when given to UPS. When they reached you, they weren't. UPS agrees to take a job to deliver items quickly and undamaged. They didn't do it.

They're blowing smoke up your ass about it not being packaged sufficiently. Any time UPS agrees to ship, they will not except the box if they deem it to be packaged insufficiently. If they shipped it, they said it was packaged well enough. They damaged it, they pay for it. That's why they have insurance. You need to go after them and don't get bullied with their BS

[hamann318is]

Just a question: Why did you have to point out that Trevor PMed you? I fail to see a connection with the matter of shipment.

[bmwm3n528]

The fact you are attempting to pass off a 3rd parties destruction of YOUR property as fault of a business other than the 3rd party is slanderous and in-accurate.

UPS wasn't as careful as thes could have been with a insufficiently packed 100lb package, you're correct. I don't pack glass in envelopes Chris, there's a reason.

My point has been made, for what it's worth.

[UNHCLL]

Just a question: Why did you have to point out that Trevor PMed you? I fail to see a connection with the matter of shipment.

To illustrate how Trevor failed to follow the directions and requests stated in the Original For Sale ad.

This could serve as further proof to illustrate how Trevors' in-ability to follow directions correlates to his careless discarding of the packaging prior to finalizing his claim with UPS; resulting in an attempt to procure money out of Mario for an illigitimate claim.

UPS wasn't as careful as thes could have been with a insufficiently packed 100lb package, you're correct. I don't pack glass in envelopes Chris, there's a reason.

Here you directly admit that UPS is at fault, yet you continue to try and insinuate that it is still up to Mario to make ammends?? I fail to understand this logic.


I think C///M's post summed it up the best, I will quote it for posterity's sake:

I still hope you get some compensation from UPS.

I got a complete set of M3 seats about 5-6 years ago. They arrived in 2 boxes, one box for the 2 rear seat peices, and one box for the fronts.

There was no padding, just the box. The box said fragile. Parts of the seats were actually sticking through the box a little, but overall the box was free of dents/scratches/signs of wear and the seats were perfect.

All I can say is those seats were perfect when given to UPS. When they reached you, they weren't. UPS agrees to take a job to deliver items quickly and undamaged. They didn't do it.

They're blowing smoke up your ass about it not being packaged sufficiently. Any time UPS agrees to ship, they will not except the box if they deem it to be packaged insufficiently. If they shipped it, they said it was packaged well enough. They damaged it, they pay for it. That's why they have insurance. You need to go after them and don't get bullied with their BS

[bmwm3n528]

Here you directly admit that UPS is at fault, yet you continue to try and insinuate that it is still up to Mario to make ammends?? I fail to understand this logic.

That was more of a sarcastic way of lessening UPS's responsibility for insufficient packing Chris.

I won't deny that discarding the org. packaging was a mistake, only this came to late after we received a call from UPS....I thought that pictures would do in a situation like this.

With that being said, your dad can't shoot me some money for small parts, and if some are out of production...hooking me up with some used parts? Chris, there's no way to get passed a packing mistake he made.

[UNHCLL]

With that being said, your dad can't shoot me some money for small parts, and if some are out of production...hooking me up with some used parts? Chris, there's no way to get passed a packing mistake he made.

Sorry Trevor, this is not a possibility.

I would also like to re-itterate, Mario was the one who filed the UPS claim on your behalf, to help you recieve due compensation based on UPS' poor handling. The claim was denied due to the fact you discarded the packaging, after Mario explicitly informed you to keep the packaging to be able to complete the UPS claim. Everything left our posession in 100% perfect condition, as advertised.

The box was packaged with 2-3 layers of carboard, and was UNDER the maxium box limit of 150lbs. stated by UPS.

Perhaps if your father had refrained from trying to threaten & shame Mario into making amends, we could have found a more amicable solution.

I certainly apologize for the inconvience this has caused for you, but I think it is clear it is not the responsibility of Mario or Vintage Sports & Racing to make up for this careless mistake on UPS' part.


I will not argue this point with you further, as I think we have re-hashed this enough. Mario's other feedback speaks for itself, and his character. The fact numerous people have stated it is clearly a handling error on UPS' part should also be sufficient proof your sentiments are aimed at the wrong party. If you wish to continue to fail to accept that UPS is at fault, and attempt to place blame on Mario, that is your decision. One which will only be seen by others as a petty and childish attempt to procure funds on an illigimate basis. If I were you, I would consider how this whole experience has made you look to the community and the potential caution people may have doing business with you in the future, for fear of being wrongfully accused.


Again, my apologies you were un-able to file a claim with UPS, clearly they are in the wrong and owe you due compensation for the damage they caused to your property.

Respectfully,
Christopher L.

[e30Matt]

Trevor, pull your head out of your ass. It's UPS's fault, not Mario's. File a claim, or if you can't, live with it. He's not at fault, and Chris has more than proven it.

[parkerbink]

I have read this thread, and feel I need to chime in. Shippers need to see the packaging in order to determine cause of damage, I sent an amplifier to Kenwood, FedEx, packaged by the Mailboxes ETC. that I use in Laredo and given to FedEx by them, The amp arrived in a badly damaged box and surprise! damaged.

Kenwood did nothing after opening and seeing said damage. A call tag was issued and the amp and box were picked up by FedEx whereupon it was determined they were at fault and even though 27.00 in parts were necessary to repair the broken RCA jack I received a check for 100.00 (the amount of insurance applied if no additional insurance is purchased).

My point is packaging is crucial to determining fault when a shipment is damaged. Seems only logical to me.

I have had numerous excellent transactions wih Chris and seems to me his honesty is directly attributable to his Father's character.

I am sorry you got damaged seats but it seems to me you brought the inability to receive remuniration from the shipper who clearly mishandled the package when you disposed of the second most crucial piece of evidence, the packaging.

My

You threw out the evidence of poor handling.... If this was a legitimate legal case in the court, do the prosecutors get to say:
"OOOps, we lost our evidence, can we just agree on a 5 year sentence anyways?"

I am dying to see this on Judge Judy lol