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  • MR 325
    Moderator
    • Oct 2003
    • 37825

    #1

    Cams interchange?

    Can S52 cams swap directly in to an S50? And vice versa of course.

    Thanks,
    Matt
    BimmerHeads
    Classic BMW Specialists
    Santa Clarita, CA

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  • lifeiskaos
    E30 Mastermind
    • Dec 2007
    • 1709

    #2
    no, you need s52 trays and lifters too

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    • g22
      Wrencher
      • Nov 2006
      • 274

      #3
      Not to hijack... But do s50 cams drop into an m50?

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      • dude8383
        Forum Sponsor
        • Jan 2005
        • 10387

        #4
        Originally posted by g22
        Not to hijack... But do s50 cams drop into an m50?
        yes.
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        • tonytony
          Knee deep in poopie
          • Jan 2004
          • 3498

          #5
          only vanos m50s though

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          • e30polak
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 6136

            #6
            Originally posted by MR 325
            Can S52 cams swap directly in to an S50? And vice versa of course.

            Thanks,
            Matt
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            • lifeiskaos
              E30 Mastermind
              • Dec 2007
              • 1709

              #7
              Originally posted by tonytony
              only vanos m50s though
              +1

              nonvanos are SOL when it comes to swapping cams

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              • MR 325
                Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 37825

                #8
                Originally posted by e30polak
                Don't worry Matt, we'll figure it out. ;)
                God damn it!!
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                • PiercedE30
                  R3V Elite
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 4220

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lifeiskaos
                  +1

                  nonvanos are SOL when it comes to swapping cams
                  Except for the exhaust side. Oh, and BMW did make GrouppeN cams for the NV.
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                  • tonytony
                    Knee deep in poopie
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3498

                    #10
                    ^ which are hard to find, though i see some for sale on bf.c every now and then

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                    • Uber E30
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1409

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lifeiskaos
                      no, you need s52 trays and lifters too
                      realoem lists them as the same PN... is it wrong?

                      trays

                      lifters
                      -Alex

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                      • ed94r
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 382

                        #12
                        GrouppeN cams have the same specs as the M50 cams for lift and duration. The only benefit to Grouppe N cams is that they are blueprinted to be at the outer tolerance for the spec; ie the most lift and duration within spec tolerance.

                        The S50, M52, and S52 trays are all the same. The M50 trays are different. The NV M50 can be "hot cammmed" by moving the intaket cam to the exhaust side and purchasing a single intake side schrick cam. Don't know what specs to look for tho.

                        Ed
                        1988 E30/S50...now with S52; Track
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                        • MR 325
                          Moderator
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 37825

                          #13
                          ^ So this means my cams WILL swap in to the S52 and his came will go in to my S50?
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                          • Uber E30
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1409

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MR 325
                            ^ So this means my cams WILL swap in to the S52 and his came will go in to my S50?

                            To the best of my knowledge, real OEM shows all the PN of the trays/lifters the same, and i had heard of s50 cams going in m52's with no change of lifters/trays. The ONLY difference in the s50 and s52 cams is one has a round core and one has a square core.
                            -Alex

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                            • 1991 e30 bmw 318is
                              E30 Addict
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 523

                              #15
                              i was just reading up on bimmerforums today about cam swaps. probably going to get s50's for my m50. with a good tune its good for 20-30hp....not bad considering you can get them used for like 300shipped and direct bolt in.... then the chip will cost tho.
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