Matching ZF trans with clutch options

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  • herlsy
    Grease Monkey
    • Sep 2009
    • 339

    #1

    Matching ZF trans with clutch options

    So i just ordered a ZF trans after changing my mind on the 260.

    I currently have the m20i flywheel, clutch disk/pressure plate, pilot bearing and throwout bearing.

    Can i use all of these components with the different trans? I was thinking the pilot bearing would be different, but what about the rest?

    Thanks in advance for the help
  • flyboyx
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2008
    • 8371

    #2
    you will need a zf pilot bearing and you will need to shave off the back side of your fly. Otherwise, the m20 clutch parts will work as long as you don't try to mix and match the clutch parts with a later model car.
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    • herlsy
      Grease Monkey
      • Sep 2009
      • 339

      #3
      Thanks for the reply.

      When you talk about shaving the flywheel are you talking about the oil pan clearance?

      Everything is currently mounted on the car with a g260, i just got a cheap deal on a zf.

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      • MattM
        E30 Modder
        • Apr 2009
        • 931

        #4
        or just grab an M50 flywheel.. probably cheaper at a wreaker then to get a machine shop to shave the flywheel


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        • herlsy
          Grease Monkey
          • Sep 2009
          • 339

          #5
          So are you saying i can't use my m20 flywheel with the ZF trans?

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          • Wh33lhop
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2009
            • 11705

            #6
            Originally posted by herlsy
            So are you saying i can't use my m20 flywheel with the ZF trans?
            You can. Personally I wouldn't use an M50 flywheel, especially if you've already got the M20 single-mass working. The M50 flywheel is dual-mass, heavy and hard to lighten.

            Originally posted by me from another thread
            The general rule in this case is, match the clutch and the starter to the flywheel you are using.
            Again, as long as you match clutch/flywheel/starter, it should be work. Obviously the pilot bearing should be for the ZF.

            And yes, he's referring to oil pan clearance.
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            • herlsy
              Grease Monkey
              • Sep 2009
              • 339

              #7
              Gotcha, thanks again for the replies!

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              • Wh33lhop
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2009
                • 11705

                #8
                Don't forget, if you run the ZF you'll need a different driveshaft (and to un-bend your selector rod if you've got it bent already).
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                • herlsy
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 339

                  #9
                  Yep got it, cheers!

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                  • herlsy
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 339

                    #10
                    Ok still unsure about this since i haven't seen anyone confirm they are using it. Anyone out there using this combo? Just a last check before i ditch it all and go with m50 parts. Cheers.

                    Flywheel: m20 (325i e30)
                    Clutch pressure plate: e30 325i
                    Clutch disk: e30 325i
                    Throwout bearing: e30 325i
                    Pilot bearing: e34 525i (zf)

                    I'm thinking the main thing i'm unsure about is the throwout bearing.

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                    • TurboFox93
                      Advanced Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 173

                      #11
                      How much does it cost to have the flywheel shaved? How much material do you need removed. Also, are there any M5X S5X flywheels that can be purchased new that provide adequate clearance and comparable performance to the M20 flywheel?

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                      • JGood
                        R3V OG
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7959

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TurboFox93
                        How much does it cost to have the flywheel shaved? How much material do you need removed. Also, are there any M5X S5X flywheels that can be purchased new that provide adequate clearance and comparable performance to the M20 flywheel?
                        I had a local machine shop do it for about $50. It came back fully cleaned and new looking. I think I had him cut it down about 6mm.
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                        • mazur
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 731

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                          Don't forget, if you run the ZF you'll need a different driveshaft (and to un-bend your selector rod if you've got it bent already).
                          I don't think that one's correct. I've never seen anyone mod their selector rod with this setup.



                          Also, what car does the ZF come from. My friend and I have noticed that the ones that did not come in the M model (or at least some) require a larger inner diameter pilot bearing.

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                          • JGood
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7959

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mazur
                            I don't think that one's correct. I've never seen anyone mod their selector rod with this setup.
                            His original plan was a 260 trans. You need to bend it for that setup. Since he changed his mind and went with the ZF, he needs an unbent rod.
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                            • herlsy
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 339

                              #15
                              Well trans should be here today, i'll have the G260 and ZF side by side so i'll make some comparisons as far as Input shaft length, clutch fork, etc.

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