MAZUR's E30 S50 Turbo - REV B

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  • mazur
    Mod Crazy
    • Jan 2006
    • 731

    #1

    MAZUR's E30 S50 Turbo - REV B

    Previous thread - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=144105


    So I thought I may as well make a new build thread for those people interested in such things :)

    Little background on why I had to rebuild. Throughout the time of being boosted, I was having recurring issues with knock and pressurizing the cooling system. I wasted a .140 MLS, and two stock gaskets in about 9 months time.

    After replacing the gasket again I began having major blow-by issues. It was so bad that my valve cover breather would leak a good amount and I'd waste through 2 quarts every 600 miles. I figured my rings were just toast, and because of school, I had to wait a couple months to fix the issue.

    Well, to my dismay it wasn't the rings...it was the ring lands! 5/6 pistons had broken ring lands and my cylinder walls had little evidence of any cross-hatching left. Not sure here if that's a direct product of the ring lands being broken.

    SO, considering the specs of my bore and knowing I'd have to re-hone, I decided to get over-bore pistons and refresh the bottom end.





    The pistons are Wisecos spec'd by TRM and drop the CR to about 8.5:1. One of the interesting physical features of these pistons are how their skirts are unsymmetrical on the intake side.

    Here's a pic that shows it best. Still not sure what it's for.


    I also took some rubbing compound to the tops to make them close to mirror finish. They came highly matte from factory, so might as well right? :)

    The no-brainer was to get the block O-ringed while it was at the machine shop. For where the rings have to meet at their tangents I used a manual piston ring filer to chamfer the ends to make them fit up better. Came out a really well if I do say so myself.

    I originally planned to re-use my stock rods, but I stumbled upon a cheap "used" set of Eagle's from someone's spare race motor on Ebay. I think they're one of the old original sets before the company went sour (from what I've read) as they spec'd out correctly for clearances.

    Not sure if it was the o-rings or what, but my ARP studs had to be re-torqued 3 times to 32#'s over a 48 hour period before they held Also, that new lube ARP has is awesome! No binding AT ALL. Definitely not the case with the previous lube.




    For the build I laser cut me some tools to make things easy. Made a new base plate for my valve removing tool to make it easier to remove the keepers (pic'd below) and a cam locking tool (have dimensions if anyone needs it).




    Also, while waiting for the pistons (WHICH TOOK A LONG TIME :eyecrazy) I gathered up the motivation to paint my cosmoline-infected engine bay satin black. I used the Krylon paint that muscle car guys seem to like. Seems fairly durable so far and very easy to touch-up. ;)

    I also shaved off all the brackets I didn't need...which was 90% of them :D




    I also got happy with the wrinkle paint. WHICH IS AWESOME LOOKING! Stay tuned for pics of the pieces I attacked. Also stay tuned to see if it can handle valve cover temp's :lol






    That's about it for now! Engine is already in the car and need to finish putting everything else back together.

    BTW, this S50 will be juiced on E85 :pimp:
    Last edited by mazur; 08-11-2010, 02:50 PM.
  • Holland
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2008
    • 7176

    #2
    That's going to be nuts, and close to home.
    1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.

    Originally posted by DEV0 E30
    You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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    • Farbin Kaiber
      Lil' Puppet
      • Jul 2007
      • 29502

      #3
      Gonna be sick. expected boost level?

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      • Jean
        Moderator
        • Aug 2006
        • 18228

        #4
        Good work man, sucks about the pistons and all but this one will be good for long time :)
        Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



        OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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        • e30polak
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 6136

          #5
          Wow, that thing is going to be even more of a monster. My buddy has a similar s52 in his e36, making close to 600whp with a gt35r. You WILL have some serious traction issues! :twisted:
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          • mazur
            Mod Crazy
            • Jan 2006
            • 731

            #6
            Originally posted by e30polak
            Wow, that thing is going to be even more of a monster. My buddy has a similar s52 in his e36, making close to 600whp with a gt35r. You WILL have some serious traction issues! :twisted:

            I will hopefully be able to tune out as much of this issue as possible by using a vehicle speed based boost map.

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            • e30polak
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 6136

              #7
              Originally posted by mazur
              I will hopefully be able to tune out as much of this issue as possible by using a vehicle speed based boost map.
              That's what I like to hear! Keep us posted! :woowoo:
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              • briansjacobs
                E30 Fanatic
                • May 2010
                • 1278

                #8
                I hope to solve this by doing 4th gear starts and essentially having a 2 speed. Car is going to be sick that is for sure.
                Brian Jacobs

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                • mazur
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 731

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
                  Gonna be sick. expected boost level?
                  I don't know. As little as possible to make me happy?

                  I think my wastegate will allow as low as 5 psi for during break-in period. After that, I don't know. I'm thinking 500rwhp max, which may take only a bar or so.

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                  • dude8383
                    Forum Sponsor
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 10387

                    #10
                    Originally posted by briansjacobs
                    I hope to solve this by doing 4th gear starts and essentially having a 2 speed. Car is going to be sick that is for sure.
                    :giggle:

                    Badass build man. What are you going to be using for management? That thing will definitely make some great power with E85. Will it require a separate map...will you have multiple maps depending on the gas/conditions?
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                    • Brian D
                      E30 Modder
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 832

                      #11
                      Looks like a lot of fun Richard! What machine shop are you using for the block work? And how is the brake project coming along?
                      1973 Bavaria

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                      • mazur
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 731

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dude8383
                        :giggle:

                        Badass build man. What are you going to be using for management? That thing will definitely make some great power with E85. Will it require a separate map...will you have multiple maps depending on the gas/conditions?
                        I have an AEM.

                        I'm not sure what I want to do yet about the gasoline issue, just in case I run low on E85 and can't find a station.

                        Because I wont always have a laptop on hand I think I may see if I can hook up a switch to enable WBo2 feedback. Since a wideband measures lambda, it'll hold my AFR's where I want them no matter what mixture of fuel I have at the time.

                        Originally posted by Brian D
                        Looks like a lot of fun Richard! What machine shop are you using for the block work? And how is the brake project coming along?
                        Us BMW guys like to use Greulich's Engine Machining. (Different than the auto shop...they're brothers, though)


                        Brake project has not made any headway besides finalizing one of three of the CNC programs I have to make. School begins soon, so sometime this fall semester, hopefully.

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                        • e30polak
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 6136

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mazur
                          I don't know. As little as possible to make me happy?

                          I think my wastegate will allow as low as 5 psi for during break-in period. After that, I don't know. I'm thinking 500rwhp max, which may take only a bar or so.
                          You can definitely make 500whp on 1 bar with your set-up. My buddy made 530whp on 1 bar with his set-up. He broke 600whp on 21 psi! :crazy:

                          Aside from my friend's 673whp 996 Turbo, my buddy's e36 is the fastest car I've been in! :D
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                          • mazur
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                            • Jan 2006
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by e30polak
                            You can definitely make 500whp on 1 bar with your set-up. My buddy made 530whp on 1 bar with his set-up. He broke 600whp on 21 psi! :crazy:

                            Aside from my friend's 673whp 996 Turbo, my buddy's e36 is the fastest car I've been in! :D
                            What turbo and fuel?

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                            • Brian D
                              E30 Modder
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 832

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mazur
                              Us BMW guys like to use Greulich's Engine Machining. (Different than the auto shop...they're brothers, though)
                              Thanks, I've had others recommend them also-this settles it for me.
                              1973 Bavaria

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