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  • Lakis
    Advanced Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 160

    #1

    WON'T START!? 91 e30 M3 S52 Swap

    UGH:

    99 S52 Running OBD1 (91 E30 m3 chassis)

    The car did start and now only turns but won't start.

    Here is what we've tried:

    DME ECU with and without TMS chip on board. It started without the TMS chip.
    All Grounds checked.
    Scanner shows all sensors are operating; the cranshaft pos. sensor is working.
    We are NOT getting Spark or Injection Pulse.
    Getting fuel and there is (5 gallons in the tank).

    When I did get it started I didn't have the MAF hooked up; I don't know if that affects anything.

    help brainstorming?? Please.

    John K
    Park City, UT
    1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
    2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T
  • Bennetts22@aol.com
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 171

    #2
    what dme are you running? sounds like a ews problem

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    • Lakis
      Advanced Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 160

      #3
      It is the Red label non EWS. 21.5 injector. and throttle body is 3 " to 3.5".

      thanks for responding

      John K
      Park City, UT
      1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
      2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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      • samiam3356
        E30 Mastermind
        • Jul 2009
        • 1901

        #4
        Red label 413? There are others that have a red label.

        Who did the wiring or did you buy an adapter?

        Originally posted by Roysneon
        $5 shipped?
        Originally posted by MarkD
        You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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        • STAGGERED M3
          Grease Monkey
          • Oct 2009
          • 368

          #5
          When you first started it. Did it stay on?

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          • Lakis
            Advanced Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 160

            #6
            Originally posted by samiam3356
            Red label 413? There are others that have a red label.

            Who did the wiring or did you buy an adapter?
            Sorry- I bought a used obd1 harness and I am using a TREEHOUSE adapter.

            John K
            Park City, UT
            1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
            2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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            • DREWHALL
              E30 Fanatic
              • Feb 2006
              • 1207

              #7
              Is it a 413 DME? Could still be EWS. Sounds like it with described conditions.

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              • Lakis
                Advanced Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 160

                #8
                Originally posted by STAGGERED M3
                When you first started it. Did it stay on?
                When I started it, yes it ran. But like I said now it won't start. If its an EWS issue; what does that mean?

                John K
                Park City, UT
                1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
                2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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                • gobuffs
                  E30 Addict
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 513

                  #9
                  If it ran with one chip and not the other, the chip is either wrong or installed backwards.

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                  • Lakis
                    Advanced Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 160

                    #10
                    ERROR CODE: " ECU BATTERY VOLTAGE LOW "

                    I have a MAROON LABEL 0261 200 413

                    HELP

                    John K
                    Park City, UT
                    1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
                    2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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                    • Lakis
                      Advanced Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 160

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gobuffs
                      If it ran with one chip and not the other, the chip is either wrong or installed backwards.
                      We've made sure the notch was the same both times.

                      John K
                      Park City, UT
                      1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
                      2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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                      • Lakis
                        Advanced Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 160

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DREWHALL
                        Is it a 413 DME? Could still be EWS. Sounds like it with described conditions.
                        Ok- so if it is EWS what are the fixes? Don't say new ecu please...

                        John K
                        Park City, UT
                        1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
                        2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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                        • nrubenstein
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3148

                          #13
                          What is the part number on the TMS chip? Be aware that a chip for a silver label 413 will NOT work in a red label. Your issue is that you have the wrong chip.
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                          • Lakis
                            Advanced Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 160

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nrubenstein
                            What is the part number on the TMS chip? Be aware that a chip for a silver label 413 will NOT work in a red label. Your issue is that you have the wrong chip.
                            Doug at Turner gave me the TMS chip for a NON EWS MAROON LABEL 413 ECU.

                            Plus- I am trying to start engine without the TMS chip installed now. The test computer is seeing the data on the TMS chip when it is installed (when I have it in the ecu).

                            I believe I have the correct chip= I will get you the part # though.

                            Any thoughts on the low battery message?

                            Thank you!!!

                            John K
                            Park City, UT
                            1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
                            2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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                            • Lakis
                              Advanced Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 160

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nrubenstein
                              What is the part number on the TMS chip? Be aware that a chip for a silver label 413 will NOT work in a red label. Your issue is that you have the wrong chip.
                              I just put in another ECU and the car won't start still.

                              NOT the ecu.
                              NOT the after market chip (not installed anyway).

                              John K
                              Park City, UT
                              1991 BMW E30 M3 S52
                              2003 Audi A4 Avant 1.8T

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