OBD1 swapped s52 rough/rolling/high idle HELP

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  • justin_l_
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Jun 2007
    • 1079

    #16
    That is understandable... the high/1200 rpm base idle.

    I just changed the chip back to the stock 413 red lable chip and i didn't have any issues. How is this possible?

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    • matt
      No R3VLimiter
      • Oct 2003
      • 3731

      #17
      I'm a little confused... it idles normally with a stock chip and at 1200rpm with ours?

      Are you sure you didn't change anything else? It sounds like a bad TPS, or an air leak, or both. But you definitely need to get a working O2 sensor installed. And fix your CEL so you can check your codes.

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      • justin_l_
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Jun 2007
        • 1079

        #18
        It idles at 1200 with both chips, bit after about 1 min the trm chip will jump up to around 2700-2800 rpms. I want to do some more playing with the stock chip but screwed up the pins pulling it out the last time, when I bent them back 1 became weak.
        Have any ideas?

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        • justin_l_
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Jun 2007
          • 1079

          #19
          How am I supposed to fix the cell on a e36? Don't know enough about them...
          O2 sensor is in the mail. Tried another tps off a good running car. I can't find any air leaks. I fixed any that I could find.

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          • matt
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2003
            • 3731

            #20
            When you do an OBD1 conversion, you need to move the pin for the CEL from pin one of the small connector to whichever pin it is on an OBD1 harness. I don't have that in my notes right here.

            You definitely have something weird going on, I think it's probably still an air leak issue. The idle should be no higher than 850.

            You should check your coolant temp sensor wiring also.

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            • justin_l_
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Jun 2007
              • 1079

              #21
              I have a turner adapter for the coolant temp sensor. I'll search bimmerforums or something for that pin info.

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              • matt
                No R3VLimiter
                • Oct 2003
                • 3731

                #22
                Do you have the connectors backwards?

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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #23
                  Originally posted by justin_l_
                  I have a turner adapter for the coolant temp sensor. I'll search bimmerforums or something for that pin info.
                  the single 4 pin into dual 2 pin? iirc it doesn't work when used in e30 swaps as the cluster is not able to read from the e36 sensor.
                  Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                  OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                  • matt
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3731

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jean
                    the single 4 pin into dual 2 pin? iirc it doesn't work when used in e30 swaps as the cluster is not able to read from the e36 sensor.
                    This is in a 99 M3.

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                    • justin_l_
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1079

                      #25
                      Originally posted by matt
                      Do you have the connectors backwards?
                      I'm 99.9% positive that I don't have them messed up. Checked everything multiple times when installing the harness but I'll try swapping them around tomorrow. Honestly I'm open to a out anything this thing has to be in storage before snow and they are talking about snow this week... Eww

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                      • justin_l_
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1079

                        #26
                        Originally posted by matt
                        When you do an OBD1 conversion, you need to move the pin for the CEL from pin one of the small connector to whichever pin it is on an OBD1 harness. I don't have that in my notes right here.

                        You definitely have something weird going on, I think it's probably still an air leak issue. The idle should be no higher than 850.

                        You should check your coolant temp sensor wiring also.
                        I'm not finding any info, what connector are you talking about, x20?

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                        • matt
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3731

                          #27
                          OBD2 cars have 3 round connectors by the fuse box. The small one out of the 3 connectors has the check engine light signal at pin 1.

                          OBD1 cars (and engine harnesses) have the CEL signal in the X20 connector. (The "main" one of the 3 round connectors) I dont know which pin off-hand.

                          You need you make the connection between these two wires.

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                          • justin_l_
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1079

                            #28
                            So a little searching, it looks like I'm supposed to make a jumper from from pin 1 on that small plug to pin 8 on the x20. Do i need to remove the pin from the x20 for will a jumper wire from pin 8 to pin 1 be fine?

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                            • justin_l_
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1079

                              #29
                              For anybody that might need this info in the future-
                              Need to splice pin 8 of the X20 connector to pin 1 of the x6031 (the smallest connector by the fuse box).
                              This is for e36 obd1 swap check engine function.

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