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    #16
    What are the wire colors? Stop guessing and give us some solid info man.

    '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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      #17
      Originally posted by Adrian_Visser View Post
      What are the wire colors? Stop guessing and give us some solid info man.
      okay, The wire is white with blue stripe and the other wire is solid brown.

      I also umpluged in the charcol canister connector which thanks for all the help I had it connected wrong. When I did plug in the right plug in the charcol canister I pulled out a plug with a blue wire with yellow stripe and green wire woth blue stripe ( reverse light switch) ? Know I am more lost than when I first started. :curse:Sorry for the late reply, trying to get this pig going. I only have two weeks leave to bang this out. Hope I can make it.
      Many soldiers go unknown.... You will never be forgotten SSG. Matt Mauphin, SPC. Juan S. Restrepo and all past and to come

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        #18
        Well the ETM show a blu/white wire with a brown (ground) for the running losses valve, it's only present on 1995 cars and I have no fucking idea what it is or does. Is everything else plugged in already?

        '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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          #19
          Originally posted by Adrian_Visser View Post
          Well the ETM show a blu/white wire with a brown (ground) for the running losses valve, it's only present on 1995 cars and I have no fucking idea what it is or does. Is everything else plugged in already?
          Well yes, Thank you Adrain for your help. Moreover, I went to force life in her today and she fired only for about 20 seconds and died. I have had a hard time getting her to idle. I checked for fuel and she gets fuel to the rail, but it seams like I am not getting fuel, got spark, but no fuel to burn? could this running losses valve have anything to do with this? I also had a lose vacuum hose that should go from the manifold to the fpr; unknown to me I could not find the fpr off the fuel rail. FPR MIA! I feel like I have a can of worms.
          Many soldiers go unknown.... You will never be forgotten SSG. Matt Mauphin, SPC. Juan S. Restrepo and all past and to come

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            #20
            More than likely you have the wrong fuel rail. There was an m50 that didn't have the fpr on the rail. Not sure which one. But you need the fuel rail that has the fpr on the rail. Will be a place on the fpr that a vacuum line will hook up to the manifold.
            Last edited by samiam3356; 02-06-2011, 07:14 AM.

            Originally posted by Roysneon
            $5 shipped?
            Originally posted by MarkD
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              #21
              Originally posted by samiam3356 View Post
              More than likely you have the wrong fuel rail. There was an m50 that didn't have the fpr on the rail. Not sure which one. But you need the fuel rail that has the fpr on the rail. Will be a place on the fpr that a vacuum line will hook up to the manifold.
              WTF! So Samiam your telling me that I have to get an other fuel rail? Show how did this system regulate psi in the first place? This is good info thanks; this still does not explain why my injectors fail to open. I have a bad feeling that they are not getting grounded. As I get deeper into this swap I find all type of bad news. :letitout:
              Many soldiers go unknown.... You will never be forgotten SSG. Matt Mauphin, SPC. Juan S. Restrepo and all past and to come

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                #22


                It should look like this. Does it?

                Originally posted by Roysneon
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                  #23
                  negative, my fuel rail does not have the fpr at the return side. Adrian poseted that the plug I asked eariler was for a runining loss valve; I looked it up and controles the fuel from staying in the fuel rail too long to prevent the fuel from heating up? Do you think that this is where the vacuum line plugs into? Im lost. I tried starting her today and she stills does that same thing, fired up for a second or two then died blimping it did nothing. I am greatful for the help.
                  Many soldiers go unknown.... You will never be forgotten SSG. Matt Mauphin, SPC. Juan S. Restrepo and all past and to come

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by kermugit View Post
                    negative, my fuel rail does not have the fpr at the return side. You need one. Easy fix.. There will be a hose that goes from the FPR to under the Manifold by the Air temp sensor.

                    Adrian poseted that the plug I asked eariler was for a runining loss valve; I looked it up and controles the fuel from staying in the fuel rail too long to prevent the fuel from heating up?

                    Do you think that this is where the vacuum line plugs into? Im lost. Charcoal canister has two lines one that runs down by the fuel lines, the other goes to a valve that goes to the TB. That connector you were showing goes to that valve.

                    I tried starting her today and she stills does that same thing, fired up for a second or two then died blimping it did nothing. I am greatful for the help.

                    Sounds as if you have vacuum leaks all over the place. Going to be hard to get this thing even close to running right with out the correct fuel rail and the vacuum hoses ran right. Surprised you even got it to start at all really.

                    At least there are some known issues that are slowing you down. At least your not at a complete loss as to whats wrong.

                    Originally posted by Roysneon
                    $5 shipped?
                    Originally posted by MarkD
                    You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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                      #25
                      check this out
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                        #26
                        11. is the fpr. could this be the chingus that gets connected to the runining loss crap?
                        should I scrap this and get the fuel rail with the fpr on it?
                        Many soldiers go unknown.... You will never be forgotten SSG. Matt Mauphin, SPC. Juan S. Restrepo and all past and to come

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                          #27
                          There is always more than one way to skin a cat. Good luck

                          Originally posted by Roysneon
                          $5 shipped?
                          Originally posted by MarkD
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                            #28
                            hey Samiam, how did you set your m50 up? I have only skined aliens, so cats are unknown to me. show me the way.
                            Many soldiers go unknown.... You will never be forgotten SSG. Matt Mauphin, SPC. Juan S. Restrepo and all past and to come

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by kermugit View Post
                              Yeah sorry, 06/95 M50tu. I know its not the fuel evap, air intake temp(check trice), negative on oil psi, engine temp. But, coolant temp gauge? I have that pluged in on the head next to the black dme temp sensor. Im stump? I have checked and checked. Cam sensor, huuum.
                              You're being presumptuous.

                              Originally posted by kermugit View Post
                              The plug is on the loom that houses the connector that attaches to the air flow meter if that helps. Thanks everyone for replying.
                              A quick check under my hood confirmed that the connector branching off from the MAF bundle is in fact the charcoal canister connector.

                              For future reference use the damn ETM to ID wire colors going to different connectors, make a list and tag each connector with masking tape. Then using the same ETM ID what pin of the DME connector the wires go to and ring the wires out with a multimeter (or a test light.)

                              '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                                #30
                                It sounds like you need to do some more research.
                                First if your Fuel rail doesnt look like the one in the pic above start with that. The Run loss crap is for a diff car. You need to focus on what works for these swaps you will spend more time on trying to make something work that just doesnt work then getting the right parts.
                                The E30 setup uses that vacuum reg. FPR to regulate the amount of fuel pressure in the rail. Without the corect pressure your injectors will not fire right the computer will recognize a problem and is probly shuting the car down or just dying all together.
                                Find the right fuel rail, hook up the vac line to it. Leave that sensor unpluged for now make sure you have a 413 red lable DME works the best with no issues. Try that an let us know.
                                I was 19 when i did my first swap and have sense put the same engine into 3 diff cars and has started the first time and every time sense.
                                Last edited by B3M2W5; 02-06-2011, 03:02 PM.

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