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  • dubseven
    Grease Monkey
    • Jul 2011
    • 382

    #1

    Guess what? Yep. It wont start.

    The setup:

    E30 1986 325ES
    S50, OBD1
    WAR Chip
    eBay headers
    Self-made Adapter

    Car will crank, and sputter/backfire, but wont catch. Anyone with some pointers on what to check? I tried swapping cam and crank sensors just to make sure they werent backwards, checked the ground strap from engine arm to chassis, etc.

    Ideas? Anyone?
  • Jand3rson
    Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 37587

    #2
    Start going back through your pinouts and double check your wiring work. Any work you did yourself is what you check first.

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    • dubseven
      Grease Monkey
      • Jul 2011
      • 382

      #3
      I have checked it, but I will check it again. However, everything going through the C101 would create a no start condition, not an almost-firing condition, wouldnt it?

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      • MattM
        E30 Modder
        • Apr 2009
        • 931

        #4
        fuel problem... check your relay(and related wiring), and make sure your lines are hooked up correctly. feed goes to the FRONT of the engine, return comes out by the firewall


        Full Build Thread Here

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        • dubseven
          Grease Monkey
          • Jul 2011
          • 382

          #5
          Checked fuel lines twice, and had two E36 gurus with me checking...... (Roland H. and BMWChubbs/critter)

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          • surebimmer
            E30 Modder
            • Jan 2004
            • 978

            #6
            Make sure the hose from the idle valve to the intake didn't pop out on a backfire. This would cause a large vacuum leak and the car would die. Happened to me on my first start of my swap years ago.

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            • dubseven
              Grease Monkey
              • Jul 2011
              • 382

              #7
              We checked that too, but I will check again in the AM.

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              • r4esh
                E30 Addict
                • Jan 2010
                • 439

                #8
                Bad MAF ? Try disconnecting it, then turning key, and see what happens.
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                • 7pilot
                  E30 Addict
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 475

                  #9
                  sounds like you may have clogged or stuck injectors.

                  m

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                  • dubseven
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 382

                    #10
                    Originally posted by r4esh
                    Bad MAF ? Try disconnecting it, then turning key, and see what happens.
                    Tried that, no dice

                    Originally posted by 7pilot
                    sounds like you may have clogged or stuck injectors.

                    m
                    Came from a car that ran just fine.

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                    • MattM
                      E30 Modder
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 931

                      #11
                      pull the fuel rail off, and see if all the injectors are firing fuel.


                      Full Build Thread Here

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                      • SamE30e
                        R3V Elite
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 4319

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MattM
                        pull the fuel rail off, and see if all the injectors are firing fuel.
                        Bad idea. Very messy.

                        Screw driver and listen. You'll hear them click.
                        1985 325e 2.8 Turbo VEMS

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                        • Philo
                          Ich esse kleine Kinder
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3334

                          #13
                          Maybe the injector rail ground isn't getting a good connection? Any videos?
                          -tim
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                          • dubseven
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 382

                            #14
                            Crank sensor OHMd out fine, cam sensor not so much. Trying to track one down now.

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                            • Mr.SWISS
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 1251

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SamE30e
                              Bad idea. Very messy.

                              Screw driver and listen. You'll hear them click.

                              And how many times have you personally tried this?


                              I have done this when I had bought a 944 back in 98 that sat for a few years. Entire fuel system was gummed up so I replaced pump filter and it wouldn't start. I was 17 and worked at a Firestone in Plano and the techs that were helping me were trying to start it with carb cleaner and damned near torched my engine compartment helping me

                              Luckily not damage was done just the solvent burned a moment I put it out in less than a minute. Well they all thought is was pretty funny and talked mad shit about my german turd in comparison with ol merican muscle.

                              Next day pulled injectors out and noticed one barely squiting, Set them all in a cap of carb cleaner over night tip down carb cleaner just above the cap line. Next day used a valve stem to compress needles and 3 were stuck shut. Plugged into rail and cranked, had 4 pretty streams. Installed and car ran butter smooth for the first time in years. And the 17 yo tire monkey became the designated euro dude.
                              Originally posted by 325Projectz
                              don't listen to the diagram... listen to mr. swiss.
                              :nice:

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