Warm misfire from idle to 3k

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  • blackflag
    Noobie
    • Oct 2009
    • 20

    #1

    Warm misfire from idle to 3k

    So I just finished up swapping an m50b25nv/zf310 into my e28 and so far, everything has been amazing. There is one issue however, that is bugging the hell out of me. After the motor warms up it doesn't fire on all 6 unless I get it over 3000rpm. It also runs just fine at very low throttle input. No check engine lights are triggered and I can't get it to do the stomp test, but the light does function. I have been swapping coil packs but the issue doesn't change. I was thinking maybe my tps is going out but wanted to consult the gods of m50 swaps first.
  • trackjunkie21
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2010
    • 3962

    #2
    How do you know it's a misfire?
    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

    Originally posted by Wh33lhop
    VANOS: sometimes you just need to go full retard.

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    • blackflag
      Noobie
      • Oct 2009
      • 20

      #3
      Well, its down on power a lot and sounds like a Subaru. But I was just guessing.

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      • iceman
        Advanced Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 149

        #4
        When I had a TPS go out on my brothers NV50 it was just causing weird idle rpms, but that is not a bad idea. Unplug it and see if changes. I was going to suggest plugs or coils. Does it turn over and start easily?

        You should also check:

        Ground wires
        Vacuum (You wrote that it idles nicely though)

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        • E30ruben
          E30 Addict
          • Jul 2011
          • 448

          #5
          Don't mean to bite off this thread but I have the 91 318i I just bought and it idles somewhat perfectly smooth but from idle to about 2k-ish it feels like a misfire. I put brand new spark plugs and it's better, just not smooth. Even if I rev it up to 4 or any rpm and hold it there, feels the same.
          "Do what you love, and love what you do" -Ray Bradbury

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          • iceman
            Advanced Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 149

            #6
            ^Could you describle the feeling in more detail. What does it sound like when it is idling? When you say misfire, do you hear poping noises or does it feel like it is just cutting out/low on power?

            To Start, Check:
            Ground wires
            Check vacuum hoses

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            • hoveringuy
              R3VLimited
              • Dec 2005
              • 2680

              #7
              Sounds like a vacuum leak. Not misfiring when cold because it's running richer. Leans as it warms up and with a vacuum leak it's getting TOO lean and misfiring.

              Use 3 feet of flexible plastic tubing attached to a propane source, probe the end around the intake manifold until you find the leak. RPMS will increase.

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              • E30ruben
                E30 Addict
                • Jul 2011
                • 448

                #8
                Originally posted by iceman
                ^Could you describle the feeling in more detail. What does it sound like when it is idling? When you say misfire, do you hear poping noises or does it feel like it is just cutting out/low on power?

                To Start, Check:
                Ground wires
                Check vacuum hoses
                Feels like someone is punching the car from under kinda. It's not that bad but just bugging me. I'm thinking it's a vacuum leak but idk could be something small. Raced my friends 318is and we're neck in neck
                "Do what you love, and love what you do" -Ray Bradbury

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                • blackflag
                  Noobie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 20

                  #9
                  So far I have swapped a good coil on cylinders 1-4 but still having the issue. Plugs are all brand new and the grounds look good. Ill check for a vacuum leak when I get a chance. And no worries about tagging on the thread.

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                  • blackflag
                    Noobie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 20

                    #10
                    I managed to get under the hood and check things while this issue is happening. I pulled the plug on coilpacks number 3 and 6 and there was no change. Are there any systems that deal with these 2 cylinders individually?

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                    • trackjunkie21
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 3962

                      #11
                      Yes, the coils themselves.
                      Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                      Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                      VANOS: sometimes you just need to go full retard.

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                      • weaksauce
                        E30 Addict
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 550

                        #12
                        coil packs are bad
                        i had a customer car with the same symptoms a few weeks back.

                        swapped in a good coil pack and it went away and ran great afterwards.

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