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  • tonytony
    Knee deep in poopie
    • Jan 2004
    • 3498

    #1

    I need clutch advise

    I made the mistake of buying a SPEC brand clutch when I first did my swap years ago, and now it has gone out on me sooner than expected. I dont know if I should splurge on a ClutchMasters kit or go with a Sachs oem kit, I tend to go a little hard sometimes. I dont want to do the clutch again in three years, but I also dont want to spend 400+ on a clutch if I dont have to. Ive been out of the loop for awhile, so if you guys have any suggestions for alternative clutch combos that would be greatly appreciated. My setup is m50+getrag260 singlemass flywheel
  • tonytony
    Knee deep in poopie
    • Jan 2004
    • 3498

    #2
    nobody?

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    • Jand3rson
      Banned
      • Oct 2003
      • 37587

      #3
      I would think you'd be fine with the OEM Sachs kit.

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      • SwiftE30
        E30 Modder
        • Jun 2010
        • 998

        #4
        South Bend stage 3 clutch w/oem dual mass flywheel FTW. Totally worth the money
        1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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        • tonytony
          Knee deep in poopie
          • Jan 2004
          • 3498

          #5
          can you explain a bit mroe about your setup? I looked them up, butt here's nothing for e30s other than m3s, plus i'm using a m20 single mass flywheel. Thanks

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          • Adrian_Visser
            R3VLimited
            • Jun 2006
            • 2823

            #6
            Originally posted by SwiftE30
            South Bend stage 3 clutch w/oem dual mass flywheel FTW. Totally worth the money
            Why on earth would you need that much clutch unless you are going turbo?

            OP an OE sachs clutch is nothing to shake a stick at. If you want more holding power consider upgrading to a 240mm setup.

            '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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            • NbAmTwE
              Advanced Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 148

              #7
              f1 clutches any good?
              I was going with one of them myself. They're pretty cheap.
              UNDER CONSTRUCTION - 24v 325e (future DD), DD 525i


              stripped out e30 rally project - in progress
              M50NV -> M50TU E34 swap underway

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              • Jand3rson
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 37587

                #8
                Seriously, guys. Unless you're talking boost or huge stoker motors, you're fine with the OEM Sachs kit. There's no point in spending a bunch of money on some overkill clutch setup that you're never going to see the limits of.

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                • tonytony
                  Knee deep in poopie
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 3498

                  #9
                  Thanks Josh, I just needed some reassurance that I'm not going to do this job again anytime soon. Another reason why I was thinking of a beefier clutch is because some time down the line I plan on supercharging the m50, but I'll cross that bridge when i get to it, in the mean time it sounds like the oem clutch is suffient enough.

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                  • tonytony
                    Knee deep in poopie
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3498

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NbAmTwE
                    f1 clutches any good?
                    I was going with one of them myself. They're pretty cheap.
                    i read up on those and you get what you pay for....

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                    • e30rapidic
                      R3VLimited
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2167

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Janderson
                      Seriously, guys. Unless you're talking boost or huge stoker motors, you're fine with the OEM Sachs kit. There's no point in spending a bunch of money on some overkill clutch setup that you're never going to see the limits of.

                      this. stock M50 doesn't have enough oomph to tear up an oem clutch.

                      I ran oem for 100 miles behind my tuned S50 until one of the straps broke. I upgraded to a clutch masters and have no issues.
                      '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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                      • Adrian_Visser
                        R3VLimited
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2823

                        #12
                        Breaking PP straps has more to do with bad down shifting technique, are you running a 240mm? I have only heard of straps breaking on 228mm setups.

                        I don't know if I would call my s52 with bolt-ons "tuned" but I run it fairly hard from time to time and do a lot of heavy downshifting and engine braking, I haven't broke it or had it slip after a year and a half. I did snap a driveshaft though :-)

                        '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                        • SwiftE30
                          E30 Modder
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 998

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tonytony
                          can you explain a bit mroe about your setup? I looked them up, butt here's nothing for e30s other than m3s, plus i'm using a m20 single mass flywheel. Thanks
                          If you decide to go with this clutch setup just talk to JordanMD88 on bimmerforums and explain what you have engine wise and he'll set you up right.

                          Originally posted by Adrian_Visser
                          Why on earth would you need that much clutch unless you are going turbo?
                          haha Yeah, i am going turbo, for some reason i thought he said he was going turbo in the original post. if he plans on supercharging it later down the road, i'd still suggest to just get the stronger clutch now and not worry about it later.
                          1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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                          • Beej '86 325es
                            R3VLimited
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 2639

                            #14
                            What happened with the Spec clutch? I've got a Spec stage 3+ and these things are good for like 600+ ft lbs, and very streetable.
                            Maybe your slave cylinder rod needs to be a little shorter?
                            -Brandon
                            '86 325es S50
                            '12 VW GTI Autobahn DSG
                            '03 540i M-Sport (sold)
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