I failed my BAR test

[e30slidewayz]

I love SC ;) sorry for all the inspection woes.

[Wanganstyle]

sounds like a heep of trouble here. how much more of a pain in the ass/expensive is it to go straight to obdII when doing the S52 swap?

honestly its cheaper.

keeping obd2 will have all the sensors installed already; no need to buy all new sensors for obd1.

have ews deleted from the ECU or just install the parts ($0 if you buy the entire donor e36M3 with your S52)

install charcoal canister for evap ($0 from your donor car)
install running losses valve and fuel pressure setup ($0 from donor car)

DONE.

[DooDanE30]

sounds like a heep of trouble here. how much more of a pain in the ass/expensive is it to go straight to obdII when doing the S52 swap?

[Rsully70sev]

lol, did you continue reading my post after that? Yeah, it would definitely be a huge liability. Forged documents going to a government agency, sounds legit.

[giantkeeper]

It looks like you're flagged on identifying your motor, seems like a smog shop willing to turn their back is your only option.

If it's flagged though, this means nothing but trouble for the shop.

[Etexise30]

LOL same thing happened to me .i went to same college for a bar inspect.i had a NV M50.any how u need to take it to a shop to print out the details of the engine.its done with a gt1 scanner,itll print out every detail of the engine.another thing u may have to go to dealer as well and ask around for a certificate.

[evandael]

lol what a crock of shit. i sure hope kalifornistans practices never make it over to the states i live in and love.

my solution? m20 or move. sorry i can't help!

[Rsully70sev]

Ehhh, IDK if I agree with that. You'd be surprised, some cops are true enthusiast, and some are simply taught (and acquire knowledge) on what to look for. My old zinno had two previous owners-both police officers lol. I kept in touch, told him about my BAR'd S50 Alpine after the Zinno was wrecked-and he was relieved it was BAR'd. Police are trained to look for aftermarket parts and swaps believe it or not, and if you catch the wrong officer on the wrong day, you could have a serious headache.

It looks like you're flagged on identifying your motor, seems like a smog shop willing to turn their back is your only option. You might be able to find a small locally owned one in SoCal, but smog shops don't fuck around in NorCal anymore. Getting their smog license revoked and a $10,000 fine isn't worth the risk for most shop owners...especially if they're forging information that's going straight to a CA Ref lol.

[EDirtyZ]

Dude get a m50 valve cover and just drive it, if a cop pops your hood you think he can tell the difference between a m20 and a s50/s52? i've had 2 cops pull my friend over with me in it. (a 1989 s52 obd 1 318is) and they made us pop the hood and they come back saying they didn't notice anything fishy. They went to the rear of the car and saw the 318is logo and asked us why it says 318is when its a 6 cylinder. we just told them because its a 325is we tagged with 318is so people would think we are slower. And the cops dont know shit.

[treff-7]

any status updates?

[mammoth_e30]

dude that sucks, especially about the motor paper work. I am getting ready to BAR mine as OBDII but I still have a check engine light due to a mistake in my wiring adaptor I still need to fix. My local ref is at El Camino College in Torrance but I have heard through mckman (he took a class with the ref) that they are strict on the intake and I am using a cone filter setup.

Other than that I am pretty much stock OBDII. I will be helping another buddy with his build and he is going OBDII as well.

This whole mess is enough to make me want to move and the more i learn about the OBDII stuff like the usless smog air pump the more i get annoyed.

Just pay the man for a "friendly" smog and move on if you dont' want to take the time and money to go OBDII, especially if you dont' already have all the parts u need cause it ain't cheap to do it piece by piece, I know.

[treff-7]

I have a cone filter. They didn't say anything about that, just the intake boot.

looks like all the stations are different. how many people said that cone filter was a no no but nobody ever mentioned the intake boot. i don't really know BTW what that has to do with the emissions. I kept the obd2 oil separator and now i think that maybe i should pull it out for the test... and figure out a way to get paperwork for an s50... :hitler:

[IRUNEDM]

What kind of air box are you using? or you have a cone filter? asking cuz i'm getting close to bar-ing my s52 as well. i wanted to install the bimmerworld boot this weekend but i guess i won't until the car passes (if passes).

I have a cone filter. They didn't say anything about that, just the intake boot.

[treff-7]

What kind of air box are you using? or you have a cone filter? asking cuz i'm getting close to bar-ing my s52 as well. i wanted to install the bimmerworld boot this weekend but i guess i won't until the car passes (if passes).

[IRUNEDM]

So wait, these guys are supposed to be emissions experts but they don't even know how many o2 sensors an OBD1 engine has?

That's what I'm saying. I read up on the forum (http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...5&postcount=11) that they have the wrong exhaust diagram that shows two O2 sensors.

^^My thought as well.

However if they are looking at a diagram, do you have the S52 valve cover, maybe that is pointing them to look at the S52 info, where you would have 2 O2 sensors. (right?)

And seriously, you need a stock intake boot!? My gosh...

I do have the S52 valve cover on and they didn't ask about it. As for the intake boot, they said it had to be CARB legal. I have the Bimmerworld 3"-3.5" boot on it currently.