Who's using a G260 with a DTM Slye shifter?

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  • Lof8
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2006
    • 2827

    #1

    Who's using a G260 with a DTM Slye shifter?

    My plan is to use the AKG DTM shifter in conjunction with a UUC twisted selector rod. As we know, using a G260 in a swap results in a 10 degree rotation of the trans. The DSSR is twisted to accommodate this, however, the gear selector nub on the trans is not the center of the rotation. This causes the nub to become off-centered slightly during a 24v swap.

    I'm concerned that with the tighter tolerances and rigid mounting of this setup will result in some binding and resistance in shifting.

    Does anyone have experience with this combo?
    Last edited by Lof8; 08-08-2012, 05:51 PM.
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  • ian e30 318is
    E30 Mastermind
    • Mar 2007
    • 1804

    #2
    Good point. I'm curious about this as well.

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    • 10Toes
      Me Father Was A Tree
      • Jan 2008
      • 61222

      #3
      Originally posted by Lof8
      My plan is to use the AKG DTM shifter in conjunction with a UUC twisted selector rod. As we know, using a G260 in a swap results in a 10 degree rotation of the trans. The DSSR is twisted to accommodate this, however, the gear selector nub on the trans is not the center of the rotation. The nub also becomes off-centered slightly during a 24v swap

      I'm concerned that with the tighter tolerances and rigid mounting of this setup will result in some binding and resistance in shifting.

      Does anyone have experience with this combo?

      I have driven a car with the AKG DTM shifter and stock twisted selector rod and there are no problems.

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      • Lof8
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2006
        • 2827

        #4
        Originally posted by 10Toes
        I have driven a car with the AKG DTM shifter and stock twisted selector rod and there are no problems.
        Cool, since the UUC twisted DSSR is on backorder indefinitely, I will be going with a stock twisted selector for a while anyway. Glad to hear it worked well.

        BTW, what were your overall impressions of the setup? I've heard a couple of complaints that the shift pattern becomes too tight and missing shifts is easier to do. Did you feel anything like that?
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        Originally posted by TDE30
        What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
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        • burkey001
          Mod Crazy
          • Feb 2011
          • 608

          #5
          I would like to point out I believe that the 187mm long shift rods are slightly too short to put the AKG DTM shifter in the correct spot (i.e. straight up 'latitudinally' along the car).

          To this end I made up my own dual shear type shift rode but at a longer length to suit AKG and 10 degree twisted to suit a motor swap. THis is covered in that "shift rod" thread mentioned.

          As for how an AKG DTM shifter feels with:
          a) solidly mounted trans
          b) near on size-for-size tolerances in everything involves from shifter to trans.

          Its notchy and stiff. sure. When the trans is cold you have to work with it and be nice.
          Soon as it warms up the action gets smoother but if I had this in my daily it would probably get real old, real quick.

          On track I haven't had any problems with missing gears, touch wood, and the position relative to steering wheel is great. Is it something you 'have to have' over a nice short shifter already? No sir.

          A UUC or Roque style regular short shifter is so much more user friendly on a day to day basis
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          • James Crivellone
            Head Janitor
            • Oct 2003
            • 6298

            #6
            Originally posted by Lof8
            Cool, since the UUC twisted DSSR is on backorder indefinitely, I will be going with a stock twisted selector for a while anyway. Glad to hear it worked well.

            BTW, what were your overall impressions of the setup? I've heard a couple of complaints that the shift pattern becomes too tight and missing shifts is easier to do. Did you feel anything like that?
            I have it in my racecar, M50/G260 + AKG Sportshift + stock modified selector rod.

            No issues with binding, never missed a shift, reverse is a LITTLE tight but no big deal.

            Best shifter I have ever had, especially in a racing application.. the height is REALLY nice.

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            • Lof8
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2006
              • 2827

              #7
              Burkey,
              do you happen to have any more of your DSSR's available?

              I'm thinking of sticking with the stock twisted rod for a little while to allow a little play and avoid the potential binding.
              S50'd

              Originally posted by TDE30
              What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
              Originally posted by slammin.e28
              I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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              • Lof8
                R3VLimited
                • Oct 2006
                • 2827

                #8
                Originally posted by James Crivellone
                I have it in my racecar, M50/G260 + AKG Sportshift + stock modified selector rod.

                No issues with binding, never missed a shift, reverse is a LITTLE tight but no big deal.

                Best shifter I have ever had, especially in a racing application.. the height is REALLY nice.
                :up: Thats what I like to hear.

                Are you using the white DTM knob or the black one?
                S50'd

                Originally posted by TDE30
                What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
                Originally posted by slammin.e28
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                • James Crivellone
                  Head Janitor
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 6298

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lof8
                  :up: Thats what I like to hear.

                  Are you using the white DTM knob or the black one?
                  Black one

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                  • 10Toes
                    Me Father Was A Tree
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 61222

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lof8
                    Cool, since the UUC twisted DSSR is on backorder indefinitely, I will be going with a stock twisted selector for a while anyway. Glad to hear it worked well.

                    BTW, what were your overall impressions of the setup? I've heard a couple of complaints that the shift pattern becomes too tight and missing shifts is easier to do. Did you feel anything like that?
                    It was crivs car, I liked it never missed any shifts. It is just nice tight and precise.

                    I think you have to run solid mounts or urethane that use a thru bolt design although I have never tried it with stock soft mount.

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                    • James Crivellone
                      Head Janitor
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6298

                      #11
                      I've heard from a few Pro3 guys to avoid stock mounts at all costs to prevent misshifts. Have not heard any first hand experience though.

                      I'm running AKG Swap mounts in front and AKG Yellow mounts in the rear.

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                      • burkey001
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 608

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lof8
                        Burkey,
                        do you happen to have any more of your DSSR's available?
                        yes
                        88 325is. S54, CSL airbox, Motec M800, Motec C127, Motec PDM15, Stoptech STR, MCS 2 way coilovers, Forgeline wheels, Recaro SPA, Eisenmann, Personal, lots of custom.

                        90 318is. As new OEM+, BBS LM, AST 4210 2 way coilovers, Wilwood SL6R/SL4R, Dynaudio, Recaro Experts

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                        • Lof8
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2827

                          #13
                          Originally posted by James Crivellone
                          I have it in my racecar, M50/G260 + AKG Sportshift + stock modified selector rod.

                          No issues with binding, never missed a shift, reverse is a LITTLE tight but no big deal.

                          Best shifter I have ever had, especially in a racing application.. the height is REALLY nice.
                          James,
                          Do you have any means of replicating your stock modified selector?
                          I just got everything bolted back together (including a rebuilt trans) and I'm not too happy with the shifter positioning. In neutral, the knob points a bit toward the passenger side and my shift pattern is also skewed to the passenger side.

                          Someone needs to make some sort of an adjustable linkage. I don't think the UUC piece is my solution either.
                          S50'd

                          Originally posted by TDE30
                          What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
                          Originally posted by slammin.e28
                          I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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                          • JRKOUPE
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 3159

                            #14
                            Originally posted by James Crivellone
                            I've heard from a few Pro3 guys to avoid stock mounts at all costs to prevent misshifts. Have not heard any first hand experience though.

                            I'm running AKG Swap mounts in front and AKG Yellow mounts in the rear.
                            good info here..thanks.

                            yellow ones in rear?....subframe?....trans?.....that confused me.
                            (I didnt notice any yellow bushes on the AKG site)
                            tia

                            jrk
                            Last edited by JRKOUPE; 08-31-2012, 07:21 AM.
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                            • James Crivellone
                              Head Janitor
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 6298

                              #15
                              We just twisted the stock selector rod using a blowtorch and a wrench :).

                              Sorry they were Ireland Yellows (Typo), however I blew both of them and now have AKG Red bolt through's.

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