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  • B3M2W5
    Wrencher
    • Nov 2006
    • 283

    #16
    Ya I just cliped it off i used a pair of tin snips and just cliped it off. I took that plate off and saw where that is bolted to and i just thought i would be easier to snip it off.

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    • matt
      No R3VLimiter
      • Oct 2003
      • 3731

      #17
      Well that works too.

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      • Mr.SWISS
        E30 Fanatic
        • Nov 2005
        • 1251

        #18
        Uh I would never disturb those unless you are rebuilding your block. There is a reason people bend till it breaks or clip it off instead of undoing two bolts.
        Originally posted by 325Projectz
        don't listen to the diagram... listen to mr. swiss.
        :nice:

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        • B3M2W5
          Wrencher
          • Nov 2006
          • 283

          #19
          Good point, but i did it just cuz i was lazy and that seemed easier. Ha ha

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          • matt
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2003
            • 3731

            #20
            Originally posted by Mr.SWISS
            Uh I would never disturb those unless you are rebuilding your block. There is a reason people bend till it breaks or clip it off instead of undoing two bolts.
            Not really. Pulling a main cap off to check for debris/wear in the bearing or on the crank is pretty standard practice.

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            • B3M2W5
              Wrencher
              • Nov 2006
              • 283

              #21
              Matt makes a good point too!

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              • FredK
                R3V OG
                • Oct 2003
                • 14754

                #22
                I thought removing the main cap would be easier than breaking the bracket as well.

                Then StreuB1 on bf.c told me the main bolts aren't reusable. I guess you're gonna have to source two new main bolts and most people will need to buy a torque angle gauge (and a torque wrench if they don't already have one). Easier to just break it off. I don't know what kind of tin snips you have, but they must be pretty strong to be able to cut through the bracket! It's gotta be like 1/16" thick!

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                • B3M2W5
                  Wrencher
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 283

                  #23
                  It took a little bit but im also not the weakest kid in the world. But yah there pretty hevy tin snips. Dad worked in the trades so hes got all sorts of tools.

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                  • matt
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3731

                    #24
                    The TIS specifies to replace the bolts, but they're not actually TTY bolts like head bolts, they're just regular grade 12.9 if I remember correctly. I'm willing to risk it.

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                    • dude8383
                      Forum Sponsor
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 10387

                      #25
                      Originally posted by matt
                      The TIS specifies to replace the bolts, but they're not actually TTY bolts like head bolts, they're just regular grade 12.9 if I remember correctly. I'm willing to risk it.
                      Do you think it would be alright to re-use all of them?

                      I have to rebuild the whole motor and well I don't want to cut any corners but am willing to save some dough where I can! If they have to replaced then I'll do it the right way :)

                      Do you have specs on piston ring sizing, rod bearing sizing, and main bearing sizing? I know that I have to replace them with new sizes but I have no idea!

                      I.E. :

                      Which rod bearings should I be going with?

                      11241284850 - (45mm) - rod bearing upper (blue)
                      11241284852 -(44.75mm) - rod bearing upper (blue)
                      11241284854 - (44.50mm) - rod bearing upper (blue)

                      11241284849 - (45mm) - rod bearing lower (red)
                      11241284851 - (44.75mm) - rod bearing lower (red)
                      11241284853 - (44.50mm) - rod bearing lower (red)
                      IG: deniso_nsi Leave me feedback here

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                      • matt
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 3731

                        #26
                        Why do you have to swap them to new sizes? Did you have your crank ground?

                        I would replace the bolts if you're doing all of them.

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                        • dude8383
                          Forum Sponsor
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 10387

                          #27
                          Originally posted by matt
                          Why do you have to swap them to new sizes? Did you have your crank ground?

                          I would replace the bolts if you're doing all of them.
                          Nope, I did not have my crank ground.

                          I have no idea what the size should be because realoem lists several sizes!

                          I can't find any information about the block in this bloody Bentley manual!!
                          IG: deniso_nsi Leave me feedback here

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                          • e30serg
                            E30 Addict
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 562

                            #28
                            Dude-get yourself some plastigage and learn how to use it! :D
                            Read this:

                            You basically lay down the plastigage across the bearing surface, install the cap over it and torque the bolts down to spec. Remove the caps and check the thickness of the plastigage using the included guide. This will tell you how much room you have to fill between the crank journal and the bearing cap. Size the bearing accordingly. If you haven't touched anything and the journals look good, you can probably get away with having the journals polished, installing stock bearings and call it a day!

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                            • dude8383
                              Forum Sponsor
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 10387

                              #29
                              You make it sound so easy :)

                              I shall get me some of this plastigage and learn how to use it...
                              IG: deniso_nsi Leave me feedback here

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                              • e30serg
                                E30 Addict
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 562

                                #30
                                :D
                                All I can say is read, read, read, read.

                                And unless you're in a huge hurry...take your time! Do it right the first time, unless you really enjoy tearing stuff apart..

                                ;)

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