Is the S50/S52 swap really worth it

[mazdarati]

I've read a number of times about how ungodly slow the m20 is. And maybe it's just the fact that I've never had a 400 hp car, but I think the m20 is quick (flamers gonna flame). Compared to most small 20+ year-old cars, the damn thing IS quick. It is my opinion, that the people who say it's a dog, either have never had a fresh m20 or have known many many more horsies than I. Whether the swap is worth it or not is relative to one's own situation. To me, it's not. But I'm gay for m20s.

DITTO! I heart my m20!

[evandael]

i'm confident in the s52 because the power/weight works out to be a touch better than the honda s2000, which i am familiar with and believe to be a fast car.

the e30 will be rougher and have more torque and less tire, so it should feel even faster (note: emphasis on feel)

[Wanganstyle]

i'm confident in the s52 because the power/weight works out to be a touch better than the honda s2000, which i am familiar with and believe to be a fast car.

the e30 will be rougher and have more torque and less tire, so it should feel even faster (note: emphasis on feel)

Missing items:

S2000 suspension and chassis

It makes a very big difference................

S52 in s2000 would be tits.

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[golde30]

callin me out eh

Ya I agree - def see some poorly swapped m50/52 e30's on cl in poor conditioned cars for the reason you stated.. and my basic bolton dsm is faster, old sti was hugely faster, but nowhere near fun to drive than my e30 (not to mention driving feel, style, quality etc).

no care to "prove my internet worth" as an e30 enthusiast - but no I've had many a e30's, own two now -and my opinion stands. Just because you don't agree doesn't make me a non active enthusiast - and justifies your assumption and your categorization. True - my e30 can womp an s2k w raw power, but excitement on a twisty road w similar quality suspension/tires - well maybe you've never owned one.. or many other quick cars because you're the self righteous, all knowing "active enthusiast."

way to point fingers make this forum/scene so amazingly cool.

Come follow me and Sschin through the twisties, bring whichever "fast" car you want. Haven't come accross any cars yet that can hang with our e30s.

[Wanganstyle]

Come follow me and Sschin through the twisties, bring whichever "fast" car you want. Haven't come accross any cars yet that can hang with our e30s.

I know more than a few cars ;)
the grocery mobile is STi pace in the mountains.

The full attack E30 is not allowed on streets but i've always wanted to run it on HWY 9

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[yahh]

The "added" weight you guys are talking about is so miniscule that it's not worth mentioning. I removed AC/Condensor/Windshield Wiper fluid tank and the engine is as far back as possible. Combined with BC Coilovers with -2.5" Camber all around handles great. A set of coils on a corner balanced car will handle insanely on an e30 whether it's 24v swapped or not. People just don't want to shell out the money to get a proper functioning car.

[Wanganstyle]

The "added" weight you guys are talking about is so miniscule that it's not worth mentioning. I removed AC/Condensor/Windshield Wiper fluid tank and the engine is as far back as possible. Combined with BC Coilovers with -2.5" Camber all around handles great. A set of coils on a corner balanced car will handle insanely on an e30 whether it's 24v swapped or not. People just don't want to shell out the money to get a proper functioning car.

the same suspension perfectly corner weighted for M20 is WRONG for 24V............... most of r3v likely does not understand the principal or reasoning to spend so much on an alignment

[yahh]

I didn't mean the same setup as most of them never had it during the m20 anyway. 75% of r3v uses coils just to go low, hence why JOM and Racelands are so popular.

[golde30]

I know more than a few cars ;)
the grocery mobile is STi pace in the mountains.

The full attack E30 is not allowed on streets but i've always wanted to run it on HWY 9

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Come out and drive Woodside H, my e30 hasn't had registration in years.

[Wh33lhop]

Come follow me and Sschin through the twisties, bring whichever "fast" car you want. Haven't come accross any cars yet that can hang with our e30s.

If you guys don't raise your cars a bit a geo metro could probably beat you up a mountain :p

[Wanganstyle]

Come out and drive Woodside H, my e30 hasn't had registration in years.

Not worth bringing out the e30 to a public street; id have to wear a helmet to prevent getting a concussion. I'd also have to wear a HANS lol rofl

If you want to come try chasing it on track ill invite some r3v folks to the next shakedown open day befote thill sept.

Usually weekends I can be found on hwy 9 backside. Woodside is too hot on police for my liking

If you guys don't raise your cars a bit a geo metro could probably beat you up a mountain :p

A rental car is also great on rough roads; e30 is pretty poor on traction if too low.

Ours somehow magically can pass 2 wheels off track at Buttonwillow in the slalom or talledega on the outside. ....with outside tires on dirt.... managed to run a 2:15 in severe traffic on practice tires :)

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[evandael]

Missing items:

S2000 suspension and chassis

It makes a very big difference................

S52 in s2000 would be tits.

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oh i know. the s2000 has two decades of chassis engineering over the e30. but for a street car/daily driven at 7/10's, the e30 will feel just as fast, if not faster.


and the s52 is too heavy/long.. a k20/k24 high compression frankenmotor in s2000 would be tits. actually, a k20/k24 in an e30 would be awesome..

[golde30]

If you guys don't raise your cars a bit a geo metro could probably beat you up a mountain :p

that is being remedied already, my car no longer rubs after i took off the spacers, Spencer is going back down to 215/40/17 soft tires. i dont seem to remember any1 being behind me when i was doing 120 through the shasta mountains..

[Wanganstyle]

that is being remedied already, my car no longer rubs after i took off the spacers, Spencer is going back down to 215/40/17 soft tires. i dont seem to remember any1 being behind me when i was doing 120 through the shasta mountains..

wheel hop would probably eat you alive with sheer chassis ability .....with his grocery machine :P

if you think your frakenmachine is setup properly; take it to Laguna Seca. If you can pull close to a 1:50 it is well tuned; Mountain does not mean anything; its simply shakedown and practice for the real thing.

[golde30]

thinkin about running with City Auto Tech @ Laguna 9/13. But wont be in my e30, suspension is not dialed in on my car. Going to try and get SSchin to bring out the s52 e30 i just finished building with him, hes got waaaaay better suspension than me. Never ran Laguna, would be fun to give it a go-around.