M50 with S50 cams and G250 with S3.73 will this be a good set up?

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  • Wh33lhop
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2009
    • 11705

    #16
    15" or 16" wheels makes no difference in the gearing. It's the rolling diameter of the tires that matters.
    paint sucks

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    • agent
      Vice Grand Pubaa
      • Mar 2010
      • 7960

      #17
      True. A 205/50-16 setup has almost the exact same rolling diameter (0.3% difference) as a stock weave on 195/65-14s.
      Originally posted by kronus
      would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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      • emmanuel.dlc
        Advanced Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 144

        #18
        Originally posted by amcink
        Do you know which cars had the lsd 3.25??
        e28's have 3.25lsd medium case ready to swap.

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        • Nick_S
          No R3VLimiter
          • Apr 2011
          • 3656

          #19
          OP you should re-edit your original post with the original question. Threads like this are what helped me figure out my setup when searching around.
          91 318is M50 swapped
          05 Honda Pilot

          24V swap thread
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302524

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          • rickston69
            Noobie
            • Jun 2013
            • 7

            #20
            I'm running a large case 3.46 LSD in my M52 swapped e30 318is with the stock 14" wheels and tires. For a brief period I left the original small case 4.10 LSD with the new engine and it was horrible. It was wicked as hell and it could spin the rear tires through the first 3 gears. As much "fun" as it was to play with, the lower 4.10 gear ratio caused it to turn about 4500 RPMs at 70 on the highway. The diff probably would not have held up for very long at all. With the higher 3.46 gear ratio it now turns about 3500 at 70 but since I drive it in town between 45-55 mph, it is turning ~2500/~2900 RPMs. Much more enjoyable, it gets down the street like a scalded cat, and it still has great pull in every gear too! If your daily driving is mostly highway, something even higher than a 3.46 would probably be better for gas mpg.

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            • emmanuel.dlc
              Advanced Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 144

              #21
              Originally posted by rickston69
              I'm running a large case 3.46 LSD in my M52 swapped e30 318is with the stock 14" wheels and tires. For a brief period I left the original small case 4.10 LSD with the new engine and it was horrible. It was wicked as hell and it could spin the rear tires through the first 3 gears. As much "fun" as it was to play with, the lower 4.10 gear ratio caused it to turn about 4500 RPMs at 70 on the highway. The diff probably would not have held up for very long at all. With the higher 3.46 gear ratio it now turns about 3500 at 70 but since I drive it in town between 45-55 mph, it is turning ~2500/~2900 RPMs. Much more enjoyable, it gets down the street like a scalded cat, and it still has great pull in every gear too! If your daily driving is mostly highway, something even higher than a 3.46 would probably be better for gas mpg.
              which tranny? stock 318i? or the zf from the m52?

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              • ArtClassShank
                Advanced Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 143

                #22
                Originally posted by rickston69
                I'm running a large case 3.46 LSD in my M52 swapped e30 318is with the stock 14" wheels and tires. For a brief period I left the original small case 4.10 LSD with the new engine and it was horrible. It was wicked as hell and it could spin the rear tires through the first 3 gears. As much "fun" as it was to play with, the lower 4.10 gear ratio caused it to turn about 4500 RPMs at 70 on the highway. The diff probably would not have held up for very long at all. With the higher 3.46 gear ratio it now turns about 3500 at 70 but since I drive it in town between 45-55 mph, it is turning ~2500/~2900 RPMs. Much more enjoyable, it gets down the street like a scalded cat, and it still has great pull in every gear too! If your daily driving is mostly highway, something even higher than a 3.46 would probably be better for gas mpg.
                Is it really that much harder on a diff to have a 4.10?
                1989 Carbon Black 328is

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                • techno550
                  Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 82

                  #23
                  with the 3.73 and stock size E30 tires, you will have a top speed of 130mph assuming a 7k rpm redline.
                  70mph cruise will be 3750 rpm.

                  really depends on what you can tolerate. This is almost identical RPM/speed wise to a 3.91 on an E36, and I had that as my daily for a year or so. Wasn't too bad as I had a relatively quiet exhaust.

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                  • rickston69
                    Noobie
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 7

                    #24
                    Originally posted by emmanuel.dlc
                    which tranny? stock 318i? or the zf from the m52?
                    ZF that was mated to the M52. I don't think the 5spd from the M42 would work or was just not recommended ~ I forget. :-/

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                    • rickston69
                      Noobie
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 7

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ArtClassShank
                      Is it really that much harder on a diff to have a 4.10?
                      My mechanic said the small diff would probably not have held up long with the bigger engine. Who knows how long it would have taken? I wasn't abusing the car every time I drove it although I had some fun with it. ;) I assume for racing the guys are using the small case 4.10 diffs. I am really glad to have the 3.46 in its place though. :)

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                      • emmanuel.dlc
                        Advanced Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 144

                        #26
                        Originally posted by rickston69
                        ZF that was mated to the M52. I don't think the 5spd from the M42 would work or was just not recommended ~ I forget. :-/
                        not recommended but it works, i will math your ratio out, i want to run 4.10 with my b28 but with g260

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                        • rickston69
                          Noobie
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 7

                          #27
                          Originally posted by emmanuel.dlc
                          not recommended but it works, i will math your ratio out, i want to run 4.10 with my b28 but with g260

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                          Cool ~ I'd be curious to see just how different it is from the 3.46 in it now.

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                          • emmanuel.dlc
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 144

                            #28
                            well, here is the calc:

                            ZF320/3.46 vs. G260/4.10 both with 225/45/16 and 7,000 limiter:


                            zf

                            1- 34.4
                            2- 57.9
                            3- 86.9
                            4- 116.4
                            5- 144.3

                            g260

                            1- 31.8
                            2- 55.4
                            3- 87.0
                            4- 121.8
                            5- 150.3

                            very close, the g260 a bit more long on the latest 2 gears but its very comparative. it must be a blast to drive, i liked the 3.73 with the g260 now i want the 4.10 :D

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                            • ArtClassShank
                              Advanced Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 143

                              #29
                              EndTuning - A simple calculator to work out what road speed you will achieve at a given RPM, or calculate your RPMs from a given road speed. This will be able to demonstrate increases with In-Gear speeds for increase RPM limiters


                              This site is a good resource for playing around with ratios. I use it all the time.
                              1989 Carbon Black 328is

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                              • emmanuel.dlc
                                Advanced Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 144

                                #30
                                i use this one:



                                its tailored for e30/e36 with the ratios already dialed in, nice tool!

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