what to use for raising the engine?

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  • amcink
    Mod Crazy
    • Jan 2012
    • 788

    #1

    what to use for raising the engine?

    I'm using my M50 exhaust manifold on my swap but the front one is too low and the brace and the sway bar are in the way therefore I cannot attached it to the exhaust. I read that you need to raise the engine by 5 mm but I think I need more so I'm asking of what to do or should I go to a machine shop and ask to do a thick washer and place it between the motor mount and the motor?
  • amcink
    Mod Crazy
    • Jan 2012
    • 788

    #2
    41 views and no response? has anyone use the M50 OEM exhaust manifold and have problem connecting the rest of the exhaust having the brace and sway bar in the way?
    Last edited by amcink; 06-17-2014, 10:29 AM.

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    • mpowerful
      E30 Fanatic
      • Jul 2013
      • 1273

      #3
      I didnt use that manifold but i did raise my engine a bit on drivers side. Used washers. Works fine.

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      • Roysneon
        R3V Elite
        • Apr 2010
        • 4505

        #4
        Stack up some washers if you're going to raise the engine up.

        Now the problem with this method as I'm sure someone will soon point out is that you will then have the front of the engine/transmission higher than the rear, which becomes a problem when it comes to the guibo. It's now not only rotating, but it's being 'bent' by the transmission not being in line with the driveshaft.

        I had thought about trying to space the transmission as well to match the engine but the problem is that the driveshaft will not make up for that as the u joint is behind the CSB and won't allow for the misalignment on that end.
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        • Varinn
          Mod Crazy
          • Apr 2010
          • 780

          #5
          I just had an exhaust shop cut and reshape my s52 header, it wasn't't too expensive as my total cost was $900 for a full custom mandrel system, header mod included. Is the m50 manifold cast like m20 ones??
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          • butters
            E30 Fanatic
            • Nov 2010
            • 1202

            #6
            The OBD1 manifolds are cast. Steel tube replacements are cheap, and as roysneon pointed out there are some really questionable effects of raising the engine at one mount. Correct the exhaust, not the engine position.

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            • Northern
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2010
              • 5045

              #7
              Originally posted by Roysneon
              Stack up some washers if you're going to raise the engine up.

              Now the problem with this method as I'm sure someone will soon point out is that you will then have the front of the engine/transmission higher than the rear, which becomes a problem when it comes to the guibo. It's now not only rotating, but it's being 'bent' by the transmission not being in line with the driveshaft.

              I had thought about trying to space the transmission as well to match the engine but the problem is that the driveshaft will not make up for that as the u joint is behind the CSB and won't allow for the misalignment on that end.
              Its been ~3 years since I shimmed my motor (somewhat unintentionally) and my guibo and CSB are still good. I'm not saying it isn't kind of ghetto, but I've experienced no terrible side effects.
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              • FredK
                R3V OG
                • Oct 2003
                • 14745

                #8
                I used around 3/4" of washers to get my exhaust manifolds to clear. I've had the same driveshaft for the last 70K miles.

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                • mpowerful
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 1273

                  #9
                  I have a set of obd2 manifolds for sale if those are better. Hit me up if your interested

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                  • e30 gangsta
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 3877

                    #10
                    Go with the s52 manifolds direct fit and tubular.

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                    • Jand3rson
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 37587

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FredK
                      I used around 3/4" of washers to get my exhaust manifolds to clear. I've had the same driveshaft for the last 70K miles.
                      Is that on both sides, or just the exhaust side?

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                      • amcink
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 788

                        #12
                        Thanks guys, I'll try some of this I will change to M52 headers later; but I need to do M50 now since I'm BARing the car and all components need to be OBD1

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                        • emmanuel.dlc
                          Advanced Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 144

                          #13
                          head bolt washers

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