Burned Melted intake runner 5 - Predetonation?

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  • Torquenstein
    Noobie
    • Jun 2015
    • 20

    #1

    Burned Melted intake runner 5 - Predetonation?

    Car: 1987 325is "C104 plug"
    Engine: 1998 M3 S52B32 with OBD1 conversion
    ECU: M50 Red Label 413 - 1994 325i auto
    Transmission: Getrag G260
    Harness: 1994 325i auto

    Mods:
    SSSquid Stg-2 Chip for 413 Red Label
    Sunbelt Stg-2 Cams
    Ford Bluetop 24# Injectors
    M50 Manifold
    3.5" HFM
    eBay Longtubes with single o2 at X-pipe

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    After our team raced this past weekend, we took off the manifold to try and chase down an issue with fuel loading up in lower rpm ranges. Upon taking the manifold off, we were surprised to see that the intake runner on cylinder #5 had been severely burned and partially melted. We inspected the cylinder and piston for damage, both appear fine and valves are sealing correctly. It's like that cylinder in particular has way too much advance timing causing a predetonation scenario.
  • Torquenstein
    Noobie
    • Jun 2015
    • 20

    #2

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    • Sh3rpak!ng
      R3VLimited
      • Jan 2014
      • 2667

      #3
      I've never seen that happen. Certainly not a good sign.
      '89 325i OBD2 S52 BUILD THREAD
      Shadetree30

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      • TobyB
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2011
        • 5154

        #4
        Do a leakdown- intake valve not sealing could do that.

        t
        now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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        • pazi88
          E30 Addict
          • Sep 2015
          • 584

          #5
          Originally posted by TobyB
          Do a leakdown- intake valve not sealing could do that.

          t
          Yeah it's definitely leaking intake valve and the burning mixture from combustion chamber has melted that. Which could be faulty lifter which leaves the intake valve open from time to time. If there valves itself don't leak.

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          • Torquenstein
            Noobie
            • Jun 2015
            • 20

            #6


            Definitely not a bad valve or lifter issue. Funny thing is, it looks more like it was just installed improperly than it was burned apart between cylinders 4 and 5. Throwing a new gasket in tomorrow and I guess abuse it some more.

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            • TobyB
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2011
              • 5154

              #7
              I was going to say your head gasket can't get back into the intake,
              but I guess if it's blowing into a cylinder that's got its intake valves open,
              then it could. As in, #4's igniting when #5's on its intake, after the injector's opened, especially...

              Wacko. Thanks for the followup!

              t
              now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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