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  • SpasticDwarf
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Sep 2006
    • 1062

    #1

    Euro S50B32 Q's

    Hey all, I've got a 325is, and I am looking into an Euro S50B32 swap. Can anyone direct me to a place where i can get some info on required parts other than the engine itself?
    What electronics do I need?
    Extra parts?
    Any help is appreciated!
  • Ray Smoodiver
    Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 8809

    #2
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    • Skafrog
      E30 Mastermind
      • Oct 2003
      • 1729

      #3
      you are in for a nightmare :)

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      • SpasticDwarf
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Sep 2006
        • 1062

        #4
        Probably, but ive got my father backing me up on it. The story is basically that I told him I wanted to find a fresher m20 because mine is old, and then he wanted to look at all of the engine swap options, and is all for the s50.
        Hes swapped more engines and built more cars than anyone Ive ever met, so it wont be completely uncharted territory.
        But I do appreciate the warning. Ill inform the father.

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        • Mot
          45 toting redneck
          • Jul 2004
          • 4018

          #5
          maybe a built m50b32 (aka Us spec S50) would be a better choice, I know you would have alot easier time sourcing parts and if you build it right, you would be right at the same power level, minus the whole ITBS and euro factor.

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          • Skafrog
            E30 Mastermind
            • Oct 2003
            • 1729

            #6
            unless your dad has experience with EWSII, you guys got no idea :)

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            • James Crivellone
              Head Janitor
              • Oct 2003
              • 6289

              #7
              Originally posted by Skafrog
              unless your dad has experience with EWSII, you guys got no idea :)
              Exactly, EWS-II is a complete pain to work with, unless you wanna really butcher everything and do a complete harness swap with coded keys.

              If you want rare engines go S38B36/B38, or go the tried and true M50B32 method that everybody else does

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              • morerevsm3
                Advanced Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 108

                #8
                Originally posted by Mot
                maybe a built m50b32 (aka Us spec S50) would be a better choice, I know you would have alot easier time sourcing parts and if you build it right, you would be right at the same power level, minus the whole ITBS and euro factor.
                ummm, no you won't, the M50(S50US) heads don't flow anywhere near the same as euro, but US S50 + eurosport twinscrew would be great option
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                • SpasticDwarf
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 1062

                  #9
                  Ahh, this is all very useful information. The only reason the euro s50 was chosen is becuase of the ITBs and power.
                  So are the m50b32 and the US s50 the same?
                  What method/engine is going to provide the most power output?
                  Thanks for all of the info guys.

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                  • Brew
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3060

                    #10
                    The euro 3.2 is very similar to the s54. Dual vanos, solid lifters, 320+ hp stock. It would take a serious budget to get a US S50 to the same power levels while staying NA, and it would be close to a full-race motor.
                    I think the ideal setup would be a low-mileage, stock internals S52 with the Eurosport twinscrew kit and a 6-spd. Think e39 m5 power delivery in a package ~1000lbs lighter.
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                    • ian332isport
                      Advanced Member
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 124

                      #11
                      Originally posted by James Crivellone
                      Exactly, EWS-II is a complete pain to work with, unless you wanna really butcher everything and do a complete harness swap with coded keys.
                      EWS-II is a doddle to fit. No need for a complete harness swap :roll:

                      Ian.

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                      • madjurgen
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • May 2005
                        • 1203

                        #12
                        it would take some serious rubber to get twinscrewed s52 power to the ground in an e30 but if you could youre looking at a 0-60 in the low 4s

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                        • StereoInstaller1
                          GAS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 22679

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ian332isport
                          EWS-II is a doddle to fit.
                          Ian, what the hell is a "doddle"?

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                          • trent

                            #14
                            Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                            Ian, what the hell is a "doddle"?

                            Luke
                            I Think that means easy. I discussed this swap with Ian a while back, and he mentioned it wasn't hard at all. Just a matter of logically fitting EWS.

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                            • ian332isport
                              Advanced Member
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 124

                              #15
                              Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                              Ian, what the hell is a "doddle"?

                              Luke
                              Hi Luke,

                              Sorry, it's an English expression meaning something is very easy :up:



                              Cheers,

                              Ian.

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