With s50 Tire Spin, how can I???

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  • BingM3
    E30 Modder
    • Feb 2004
    • 863

    #1

    With s50 Tire Spin, how can I???

    Hey guys,

    Question, I changed my diff ratio from 4.10 to 3.46. But I still get lots of tire spin on 1st and 2nd gears with my s50 motor. I also have a lightened flywheel.

    I plan to go 3.25, would it give me better results, and faster accelaration too?

    I am measuring via G-Tech Pro and my launches have been difficult because of the power:)

    Thanks
  • rede30
    R3V Elite
    • Dec 2003
    • 4697

    #2
    What tranny do you have? I am going to use a 3 25 lsd with my s50 and zf, i hear its a good combo. Are you running nice tires?
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-h...wE3UqwjjmaTrXg

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    • O 16581 72452 5
      Banned
      • Aug 2006
      • 1066

      #3
      You'll get slower accelleration and higher top speed (if you can even max out the final gear).

      Get used to the tire spin, you're running a decent amount of power in a little car unless you want to drive slicks around on the street...

      My only suggestion is run as fat of a tire as you can get back there in a good tire. Personally, i'd buy BFGoodwich G-force tires, the best tires i've driven on for the price.

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      • BingM3
        E30 Modder
        • Feb 2004
        • 863

        #4
        I have new Michelin Pilots SSX arriving Friday, 235 35 18's instead of the 225's I have. My tranny is also from an e36M3.

        Thanks

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        • hugh jass
          R3VLimited
          • Dec 2003
          • 2220

          #5
          what's a pilot ssx?
          if you really want to minimize wheelspin, your best bet is a sticky 245 tire. all season tires are not going to give you that.
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          Blunt Tech Industries
          West Coast and Pacific Rim

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          • rede30
            R3V Elite
            • Dec 2003
            • 4697

            #6
            Arent the diffs in the e36 m3's 3.15 or something close to that? 3.46 shouldnt be to bad with some stickys but like i said 3.25 is the most popular final drive with this setup. Being able to grip with a 3.46 or higher would be nice.
            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-h...wE3UqwjjmaTrXg

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            • Brew
              No R3VLimiter
              • Oct 2003
              • 3060

              #7
              Most of your problem is the 18s with their tiny sidewalls. Run a 15" or 16" with some meaty tires and you'll have a lot more traction. And you'll drop a lot of unsprung weight, too, which will help your acceleration and handling.

              A 3.46 should be a great setup with that transmission.
              '91 318is
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              • 1990m3
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Feb 2004
                • 1180

                #8
                I run a 3.46 and even with my 205/55/15 Falken Azenis I get almost no wheel spin once I'm in second gear. It partially depends on how I release the clutch but I can get the spinning tires to go away if I want. 1st will always be a problem with that gear ratio and trans, the gear is just too short. All that power and a short little gear is going to force spinning almost everytime.

                You must get the balance down properly, try softening up your rear suspension a little too, that will eat up some of the energy of the drivetrain and might reduce some tire spin. I softened my Koni's a few clicks and my tires have much better traction now.

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                • Mike325
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 3685

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rede30
                  Arent the diffs in the e36 m3's 3.15 or something close to that?
                  Yep. 95 m3 has a 3.15 diff.
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                  • 325Projectz
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1956

                    #10
                    Originally posted by O 16581 72452 5
                    You'll get slower accelleration and higher top speed (if you can even max out the final gear).
                    HA! I guess you've never been in a S50 powered e30. I'll bang the r3vlimiter in 5th all day with a 3.25.
                    91 m3

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                    • Mot
                      45 toting redneck
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 4018

                      #11
                      When it gets dry, Im sure I could bang 5th with my 3.25/ZF M52 combo. 4th is at like 107 ish with a AA chip.

                      With my 225 es100's traction is only a problem in 1st and hard shifts into 2nd.

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                      • backtrail69
                        R3V Elite
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 4471

                        #12
                        I want a ride in a S50 e30. My Turbo e30...R3Vs! through the gears. I have a 3.73 LSD in it, but with the getrag 260. I have no traction in 1st and very little in 2nd. I can roll into it at about 30 mph in 2nd and still break my 225/45 r16 RS2s loose at about 4500 rpms at peak torque.
                        :: PNW Crew ::
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                        • Mot
                          45 toting redneck
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 4018

                          #13
                          Id rather ride in your turbo e30. If your at the picnic or the next meet, we could swap rides. Im really close to a stock s50 powere level. And Im alot lighter then most e30s.

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                          • 92 mtechnic cabrio
                            Honesty is not the best policy!
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 4907

                            #14
                            Originally posted by backtrail69
                            I want a ride in a S50 e30. My Turbo e30...R3Vs! through the gears. I have a 3.73 LSD in it, but with the getrag 260. I have no traction in 1st and very little in 2nd. I can roll into it at about 30 mph in 2nd and still break my 225/45 r16 RS2s loose at about 4500 rpms at peak torque.
                            :shock: jesus im so going turbo
                            R.I.P 07/01/09 - 04/23/10 :(

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                            • BingM3
                              E30 Modder
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 863

                              #15
                              MOT:

                              Your symptoms are smae as mine, spin on 1st and on 2nd when I shift hard:)

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