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  • triggrhaapi
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2007
    • 350

    #1

    Engine gets ignition, no fuel.

    This thing is really starting to make me mad, here's the latest hitch:

    After figuring out that I didn't have the correct chip (Turner 4130-3000 stock S50 chip instead of 4130-3400 Stock S50 EWS Delete) and getting a correct one, I reached a new hitch. Despite now getting ignition, as proven by spraying starter fluid into the intake manifold and getting it to cough and turn over running on the starter fluid, we are not getting any power to either the O2 sensor heater relay or the fuel pump relay. On top of that, when we manually run 12v to the fuel pump directly, and try to start, we still get nothing, I can only assume from that that my injectors aren't firing.

    What the F%&* is going on here?

    Possible causes I can think of are as follows:

    1. Bad engine harness
    2. Bad ECU (but why would I get good ignition?)
    3. Poorly done aftermarket alarm system install (but the M20 ran just fine)
    1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads
  • Mr.SWISS
    E30 Fanatic
    • Nov 2005
    • 1251

    #2
    Originally posted by triggrhaapi
    This thing is really starting to make me mad, here's the latest hitch:

    After figuring out that I didn't have the correct chip (Turner 4130-3000 stock S50 chip instead of 4130-3400 Stock S50 EWS Delete) and getting a correct one, I reached a new hitch. Despite now getting ignition, as proven by spraying starter fluid into the intake manifold and getting it to cough and turn over running on the starter fluid, we are not getting any power to either the O2 sensor heater relay or the fuel pump relay. On top of that, when we manually run 12v to the fuel pump directly, and try to start, we still get nothing, I can only assume from that that my injectors aren't firing.

    What the F%&* is going on here?

    Possible causes I can think of are as follows:

    1. Bad engine harness
    2. Bad ECU (but why would I get good ignition?)
    3. Poorly done aftermarket alarm system install (but the M20 ran just fine)
    Wires on your battery tray are mixed up. Peel back the insulation and check the colors, and then check to see if the wires are hot where you have them hooked up to.
    Originally posted by 325Projectz
    don't listen to the diagram... listen to mr. swiss.
    :nice:

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    • triggrhaapi
      Grease Monkey
      • Feb 2007
      • 350

      #3
      Originally posted by Mr.SWISS
      Wires on your battery tray are mixed up. Peel back the insulation and check the colors, and then check to see if the wires are hot where you have them hooked up to.
      There are only two connections. One is for the car harness going into the fuse/relay box and one is for the engine harness. The car harness has a ground connection, the car harness does not. Engine turns over and gets ignition.
      1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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      • Adrian_Visser
        R3VLimited
        • Jun 2006
        • 2823

        #4
        by looking at the wiring diaram it looks like somethin to do with the ecm relay but if it wasnt workin the whole ecu wouldnt work an no ignition either hmm interesting. do you have a wiring diagram to look at? check this site out



        try it out youll have to compare what you done for the install though cuz shit'll be a lil diferent i guess

        '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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        • Mr.SWISS
          E30 Fanatic
          • Nov 2005
          • 1251

          #5
          This is a photo FredK posted for me when I was having trouble getting mine to start. Did you make the wiring adapter or buy the one from Treehouse?
          In this pic the thicker wire labled B is ground, A is 12v+
          Originally posted by 325Projectz
          don't listen to the diagram... listen to mr. swiss.
          :nice:

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          • triggrhaapi
            Grease Monkey
            • Feb 2007
            • 350

            #6
            Hmm I'll look at my wiring when I get home.
            1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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            • triggrhaapi
              Grease Monkey
              • Feb 2007
              • 350

              #7
              That was it, I hooked that up and bam! it started. Not even a hesitation, it just went.

              My car is going to be wearing a R3vlimited sticker.
              1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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              • gotKRAUT
                Advanced Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 136

                #8
                Originally posted by triggrhaapi
                That was it, I hooked that up and bam! it started. Not even a hesitation, it just went.

                My car is going to be wearing a R3vlimited sticker.

                haha admin of bimmerwerkz.com is going to rep a r3v sticker... :P
                Kyle Sutherland

                1995 BMW 540i/6:
                The Calypso Beast Vid 0-70ish
                1987 BMW 325es: Face & Butt Lifted/M50tu Swapped*Sold*
                1985 VW Scirocco: Too many mods, money pit*Sold*

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                • FredK
                  R3V OG
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 14745

                  #9
                  Originally posted by triggrhaapi
                  That was it, I hooked that up and bam! it started. Not even a hesitation, it just went.
                  FIRE IN THE HOLE!

                  Yep, it sure is a nice feeling when a car fires up. Even better when it idles steadily!

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                  • Mr.SWISS
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1251

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FredK
                    Even better when it idles steadily!
                    Uh yea...
                    Still waiting for that feeling.....
                    Originally posted by triggrhaapi
                    That was it, I hooked that up and bam! it started. Not even a hesitation, it just went.

                    My car is going to be wearing a R3vlimited sticker.
                    *SWISS pops colla*
                    Originally posted by 325Projectz
                    don't listen to the diagram... listen to mr. swiss.
                    :nice:

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                    • triggrhaapi
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 350

                      #11
                      Haha it won't idle steadily until the midpipe and cat back are on.
                      1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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                      • PiercedE30
                        R3V Elite
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 4220

                        #12
                        get us vids of it as it sits
                        My 2.9L Build!

                        Originally posted by Ernest Hemingway
                        There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

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                        • triggrhaapi
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 350

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PiercedE30
                          get us vids of it as it sits
                          I'll see what I can do. It's LOUD.
                          1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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                          • Mr.SWISS
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1251

                            #14
                            Vid*cough cough*
                            And I think you owe me a beer. :p
                            Originally posted by 325Projectz
                            don't listen to the diagram... listen to mr. swiss.
                            :nice:

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                            • FredK
                              R3V OG
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 14745

                              #15
                              I think so too. Mr. Swiss where's MY beer? J/k!

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