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    #16
    You can piece together a swap for $5000 easily if you are willing to wait and shop. If its a 'I need to do this ASAP', then yes, it will be very expensive. U-Pull-It junk yard are your friend and buy everything ahead of time. If you wait to purchase parts during the swap, your misc. fund will grow very quickly.

    Overall things I have noticed with swaps, from M50 to S52's. No matter what engine you install, there is a significant torque difference over the M20. It is a much more drivable engine around town. You can leave it in 5th on the highway and pass with ease. Of course the power add is significant as well, but IMO a properly built 2.9 or 3.1L M20 feels just as fast up high as an S50/2. The 3.2 car that I drove was very strong and you could really waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles-foot it to get good gas mileage because of the torque. One thing I did notice though is that anything less then 225 tires on either S50 or 2 leads to much wheel spin in first and second. I have never seen an 'unreliable' M50 family engine except full-tilt race engines. The same can't always be said about the M20. Even if you only can afford to do a decent M50, the torque and power gains are worth the swap. It might not be much faster then a cammed M20, but it drives so much nicer.

    For the same or less money you can have a turbo M20 with more power, but with the twin-cam swap, the real benefit IMO is the drivability and reliability. It modernizes the 20 year old car very nicely. The power is not overkill for a driver, and is plenty for anyones track habit. It just makes a much easier to drive E30.

    Wes

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      #17
      Originally posted by surebimmer View Post
      You can put a old leaking tired s50 in for $5000. But i spent a lot more doing it right the first time.
      +1. if i threw in my s50 the way it was when i bought it, i could have done it for around $5K, however i wouldnt have known it had a leaky headgasket, and would have spent more time and money fixing it later. im doing a full gasket/hose/top end rebuild on my s50, e36 steering components, stock brake refresh with good pads, and without the exhaust system, im around $7.5K...prolly looking at a lil over $8K all said and done.
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      FRONT VALENCE IS ZENDER!!! STOP FILLING MY PM BOX PPL!!!

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        #18
        5k is a bit unreasonable unless you get a stupid deal on your motor. I work for a shop and get parts CHEAP and I still spent almost 1k alone on little shit, chip, injectors, hoses, etc. Then there's exhaust and other incidentals, an OBDI conversion if you wind up with an S52 like I did. It adds up fast. Is it worth it? Oh hell yes, worth every penny and then some!
        sigpicFormer professional wrench thrower.
        Current:
        1988 325is S52
        Former:
        2008 Sparkling Graphite M3 Sedan(victim of home ownership)
        1988 M5
        1996 328is

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          #19
          actually, shop around and wait for the right opportunity and you might be able to pull it off for 5k...maybe less. i paid 2650 (+314onshippin) for my s52+ZF which gets here next week. i'm getting everything so i'll stay obdII, maybe an s/m50 manifold and replacing some gaskets and preventive maintenance before i drop it in, but i am confident that i can complete this below 4K or in the neighborhood of (not counting any aftermarket exhaust...if i don't make my own that is)...idk maybe i'm in for a hell of a surprise :D but i definetly hope its worth 'cuase 5k on a 1.3K car sounds like fanatism to me!!! happy moddin man
          No more e30s for me.
          88 black BMW OBDII 332is dedicated track [sold]
          88 BMW OBDII bronzit 332is [RIP 03/08]
          91 BMW 325i [sold]
          86 Corolla 'Ae86' HB 20v trd [sold]
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            #20
            i can get an e34 m50 for 450 and i have an s50, tranny, harness, and dme, for 2k.

            that should mean motor plus swap parts for 3000, suspension, ~1000, exhaust, misc, other. 1000.

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              #21
              Originally posted by 87-325ic View Post
              i can get an e34 m50 for 450 and i have an s50, tranny, harness, and dme, for 2k.

              that should mean motor plus swap parts for 3000, suspension, ~1000, exhaust, misc, other. 1000.
              stubborn arent you.
              IG: @Baye30

              FRONT VALENCE IS ZENDER!!! STOP FILLING MY PM BOX PPL!!!

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                #22
                this is one of those things where you dont want to ballpark your expenses.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by etxxz View Post
                  so i'll stay obdII
                  ha, have fun with that

                  As time went on, the factory developed the car each year, making it faster, more comfortable, and capable of handling at higher speeds.
                  You don’t want this. You want the trickiest, most dangerous, oldest model you can find. Only then can you prove to the world that you’re a man.

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                    #24
                    go stroker, 2.9L m20
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by PУCCKAЯ_e30ka View Post
                      go stroker, 2.9L m20
                      :dot:If you still want to have a slow car.























                      :jk:

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                        #26
                        ^^ haha
                        Originally posted by madjurgen View Post
                        ha, have fun with that
                        please enlighten me
                        No more e30s for me.
                        88 black BMW OBDII 332is dedicated track [sold]
                        88 BMW OBDII bronzit 332is [RIP 03/08]
                        91 BMW 325i [sold]
                        86 Corolla 'Ae86' HB 20v trd [sold]
                        http://youtube.com/watch?v=pTj7Hn9v5Rs

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                          #27
                          ^ you have to convert all s50 / m50's back to obd1. Hence why your 4k statement is flaud. If you want more info hit me up on aim or the phone.

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                            #28
                            didn't vlad keep his s52 double vanos? I could be wrong...but in his red m3 replica I believe he did.

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                              #29
                              Man, you guys are nuts, I have under 10k in my car with all new suspension, brakes, three sets of wheels and tires, leather sport seats, an M50 that cost me as much as an S50 goes for...

                              You can get the parts to get the motor installed for the price of the complete S50 with all accessories + $1k. Obviously that's doing your own labor.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by PУCCKAЯ_e30ka View Post
                                go stroker, 2.9L m20

                                OR, you can stroke the M50 to 2.9 and it would be even better.





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