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  • 1990m3
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Feb 2004
    • 1180

    #1

    Diagnostic Port Power

    I have been reading the archives but I can't find a definitive answer to my question.

    '95 M3 OBDI Harness...

    Which wire terminal needs power on the diagnostic port for a code reader to work properly? Pin 14 (big red wire) has power on my connector but I believe i read that Pin 16 (Green/White wire) should have power with the key in the "ON" position. Any advice or tips? I took my harness apart tonight so I could fix the problem, pretty sure it's Pin 16 but looking for some more knowledgeable confirmation.

    Thanks
  • 1990m3
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Feb 2004
    • 1180

    #2
    nobody knows which wire needs power for the coder reader to work?

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    • equate975
      No R3VLimiter
      • Jun 2004
      • 3382

      #3
      If it doesn't have power you probably have a problem. Did you hook everything up right???

      I have the schematics let me dig them up.
      Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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      • 1990m3
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Feb 2004
        • 1180

        #4
        Pin 14 has power, but the code reader didn't work the one time I tried it. I don't have a wiring diagram

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        • jlevie
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 13530

          #5
          Look at:



          for wiring diagrams
          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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          • bimerok
            Advanced Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 149

            #6
            Not to steal the thread, but I have the same problem. I connected everything and everything seems to be working, except my diagnostic connector does not work as either. I don't know if there is something else that needs to be connected at C101/x20 connection???

            If anyone has any info on this please reply. Its s50 to 91 325i

            Thanks.

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            • 1990m3
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Feb 2004
              • 1180

              #7
              I still have the problem, bump

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              • bimerok
                Advanced Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 149

                #8
                Any one?

                Any Ideas why diagnostic port has no power?

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                • 1990m3
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1180

                  #9
                  fixed it after testing my friends '95 m3 (I have the same harness)

                  With the key in the "ON" position Pins 1, 14, 16 should all have power. Once I confirmed that these pins had power on my harness the code reader works. Finally reset my inspection light (after 2 years).

                  Unfortunately my car is not sending any fault codes, and it still runs like shit. So much for it pointing me in the right direction.

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                  • Jason89i
                    E30 Modder
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 875

                    #10
                    dave - sorry i havent responded until now. just really busy.

                    Originally posted by 1990m3
                    With the key in the "ON" position Pins 1, 14, 16 should all have power. .
                    oops, typo.....should be pins 11, 14, 16.

                    Originally posted by jlevie
                    strait off the etm.....chapter 0670.5

                    diagnostic port pins for ..... lets say a 94 325i. m3's are a little different with getting power (start imobilizer and egs, but you get the idea.)

                    DIAG PIN1 blk - TACH engine speed signal from dme to x20p20 to cluster.
                    DIAG PIN7 wht/grn- S.I. RESET signal to x20p19 to cluster
                    DIAG PIN11 blk/grn - PWR from ign sw in "run / start" from x20p18 (k7/k5) unloader relays.
                    DIAG PIN12 blu - CHARGE indicator from alt. to x20p25
                    DIAG PIN14 red - PWR. hot from battery junction
                    DIAG PIN15 wht/yel - RXD datalink from dme. also to x20p16
                    DIAG PIN16 - PWR in run / start from fuse box.
                    DIAG PIN18 - PROGRAM SELECT from dme
                    DIAG PIN19 - GROUND
                    DIAG PIN20 wht/vio - TXD datalink from dme. also to x20p17

                    cheers, jason
                    Last edited by Jason89i; 10-05-2007, 12:54 PM.

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                    • bimerok
                      Advanced Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 149

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 1990m3
                      fixed it after testing my friends '95 m3 (I have the same harness)

                      With the key in the "ON" position Pins 1, 14, 16 should all have power. Once I confirmed that these pins had power on my harness the code reader works. Finally reset my inspection light (after 2 years).

                      Unfortunately my car is not sending any fault codes, and it still runs like shit. So much for it pointing me in the right direction.
                      Did you run "jumpers" to the wires corresponding to the above mentioned pins or you fixed something at c101/x20 connection?

                      I was under the impression that when you connect pin 17 on x20 it should power up Diag. Plug...??? I didn't find any other pins on x20 that would power diagnostic connector.
                      Last edited by bimerok; 10-05-2007, 07:04 AM.

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                      • 1990m3
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1180

                        #12
                        I ran a jumper to Pin 16 from the harness. Pin 14 always had power on my plug so that wasn't an issue and I didn't hook up Pin 1 (11 according to Jason).

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                        • Jason89i
                          E30 Modder
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 875

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 1990m3
                          I...........and I didn't hook up Pin 1 (11 according to Jason).
                          phew..... dont know what would happen to the dme /tach if it was energized w/ 12v. pin 1 (black wire) is the engine speed signal from the dme. cheers, jason

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                          • bimerok
                            Advanced Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 149

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 1990m3
                            I ran a jumper to Pin 16 from the harness. Pin 14 always had power on my plug so that wasn't an issue and I didn't hook up Pin 1 (11 according to Jason).
                            So are you planing on puting another jumper to pin 11?

                            Also, I just found this pinout for diagnostic port and according to it pins which should have power are: 12, 14, and 16.
                            Attached Files

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                            • 1990m3
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 1180

                              #15
                              according to the diagram you posted, which matches my harness, it was definitely Pin 1 that had power with the key switched on.

                              Pin 11 is empty on my harness. I am not planning on adding a jumper pin to Pin 11, my code reader seems to be working just fine now that 16 has power too

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