project orca cd......

[matt]

id rather be in my garage with the orca cd on my laptop in front of me, then going threw threads on here.

Then buy it.

[87-325ic]

id rather be in my garage with the orca cd on my laptop in front of me, then going threw threads on here.

haha.

[ericzz]

id rather be in my garage with the orca cd on my laptop in front of me, then going threw threads on here.

I did the whole swap based on 99% info here . Just research it for a few weeks on here then dive in and refer back as needed

[SchnellerVert]

i believe all should be.

what happened to real freedom of speech?

It's called they copyrighted it.

[BigD]

There is much better info on here than on that CD. It's just harder to find. And there's more wrong info and "crap" to sort through on here.

The main problem is knowing what's crap. Many of our "experts" are so tired of answering the same questions, they just flip the "search" flag up and move on (I've done all my homework and 99.9% done my swap and I'll be the first to admit that the DOHC swap thread is next to useless, containing about 1% useful information out of, what are we up to, 100 pages of BS? It needs to be trimmed down a ridiculous amount or condensed into ONE useful page). The people that do answer sometimes give hugely overcomplicated solutions or outright false information. If this offends anyone, please don't ask me to "search" for examples as I'm sure you know many yourself. Many of us are mechanically inclined but not experienced enough to know when someone made a mistake or is lacking knowledge themselves in the information they present us. Even if someone calls bullshit, how is an outsider to know who is wrong?

I didn't use it.

And the time you spent fixing all of the mistakes and problems you made/had (does it actually run properly now, with all lights and gauges working?), to me is worth far more than the price of the CD, which contains all of the required info to avoid them.

All of this discussion was covered back when I posted a copy online but I'll say again what I said then - if your knowledge is superior to what is contained in the CD, wonderful, but what does that have to do with how useful it is to someone who knows nothing about the swap? And since when is it a bad idea to have more information than necessary, instead of less? If you don't end up using it, good for you! I did, I know others who did, and tons of questions and problems which are posted here (sometimes by those who say the CD isn't necessary) are covered in the CD. Dismiss it at your own peril/waste of time/waste of $.

[Charlie]

why can i not find this cd anywhere, other than from zionsville, can one of you guys email it, or burn a copy for me?
thanks al

It requires activation to run.

It's less than 100 bucks, buy it.

-Charlie

[So Live]

I agree with bigd. One of the mods from this section should clean up and then probably lock the sticky thread.

I personally did all my own research and basically got the whole thing bolted together from memory. I had some questions about wiring but the only things that did not work were the diagnostic reset thing, the mpg gauge and the oil level sensor.

If you take your time, you can make it ALL work pretty easily with out the cd.

Research and gather parts before you start taking things apart. If you need help with something, search this section and you should come to an answer. If not bump up an old thread thats related instead of just posting up a new one. Itd be so much easier for new people if all the information about a topic was in one or two threads.

sorry about the novel.

good luck dude!

[BigD]

If you need help with something, search this section and you should come to an answer.

^^^ +1 I myself found this approach 100x more effective than reading through that mess of a thread.

[BDSax]

id rather be in my garage with the orca cd on my laptop in front of me, then going threw threads on here.

Wireless internet FTW. i had the laptop in the detached garage.

[Mr.SWISS]

And the time you spent fixing all of the mistakes and problems you made/had (does it actually run properly now, with all lights and gauges working?), to me is worth far more than the price of the CD, which contains all of the required info to avoid them.

I think you got me mixed up with someone else Ace.

The problems I had where I hooked up the dme power wire to the shock tower and the salvage ripped the O2 sensor wiring off when they pulled the engine.
Both of which I don't think justified getting the CD.

[Twobit]

I agree in principal, but I would not say it's needed by any means.


If $200 is going to make or break your project... this is probably not the project for you.

IF 200$ is going to make it or break it, don't do any kind of project, you're just looking to get into trouble and potentially not be able to take care of a car that deserves it.

[etxxz]

^^^ +1 I myself found this approach 100x more effective than reading through that mess of a thread.

...or if you're broke...read the messed up thread like its an Applied Thermal Fluid Systems class, take notes and shit over an entire semester with the one big final test being whether the parts you ordered work :rofl:

[bimerok]

1. CD is cheap.
2. Buy it from Zion... as activation is only good for one comp.
3. I'm glad I used CD in my swap. All part numbers are listed there. Steps are well organized for the most part. Guys are very helpful when you call them with a question. As with anything else, use your judgment if something is not necessary.
4. I got 95% of swap done with info from the CD.
5. As it was mentioned above a lot of times your question will be answered by: "WTF, use the F..ing Search" instead of just saying "Green wire connects to yellow wire". So you will have to take shovel and dig through TONS of BS and hope you found the right info when you could have it all handy...

[BigD]

I think you got me mixed up with someone else Ace.

If that's the case, I apologize. I remember in the original ORCA thread a few people said the CD is useless and later posted threads about what does this wire do, how come my gauges don't work etc.

[325Projectz]

One of the mods from this section should clean up and then probably lock the sticky thread.

or just make one of the 'smarter' e30 ms5x guys a mod for this section.