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  • 318isbmw
    Moderator
    • Nov 2005
    • 2841

    #1

    Starting issues (no fuelpump)

    Car won't start, not getting fuel... I know the harness had the ews wire clipped, so I'm figuring I don't need an ews delete chip because of this. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I checked on the fuelpump relay I put 87 to 30 and it does start the pump so that is all good.

    Thanks
  • btec116
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 131

    #2
    You will not get engine running on that computer without full ews system, including the original key from the car.

    Either get the chip, or if you have the Siemens box, might be time to start looking for a new computer...

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    • 318isbmw
      Moderator
      • Nov 2005
      • 2841

      #3
      Originally posted by btec116
      You will not get engine running on that computer without full ews system, including the original key from the car.

      Either get the chip, or if you have the Siemens box, might be time to start looking for a new computer...
      So even though it was on an e36 w/o ews because the ews wire was cut it still won't work for some wierd reason.
      Kool, thanks

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      • e30_kid89
        E30 Addict
        • Apr 2006
        • 489

        #4
        is it getting spark?

        -Check your wiring

        -Check if you got the supply/return lines the wrong way

        -Check your main relay and fuel pump relay, making sure power is getting where its supposed to

        -Check your crank position sensor as well becuase if that is shot = No start

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        • 318isbmw
          Moderator
          • Nov 2005
          • 2841

          #5
          Originally posted by e30_kid89
          is it getting spark?

          -Check your wiring

          -Check if you got the supply/return lines the wrong way

          -Check your main relay and fuel pump relay, making sure power is getting where its supposed to

          -Check your crank position sensor as well becuase if that is shot = No start
          I know its getting to the fuel pump from the relay, I started that, the rest of the stuff I'll check when I tow it home from the exhaust shop hopefully tomorrow night.
          ninja edit: also I checked the supply and return to see they are in the right direction.
          I disconnected one of the fuel lines and just held it while my dad cranked the car out of curiosity if it wasn't going because of air or was there w/ no spark.
          The wiring is this one:

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          • e30_kid89
            E30 Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 489

            #6
            hmmm....Is your check engine light when you turn the key to the "On" position (not start)?

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            • 318isbmw
              Moderator
              • Nov 2005
              • 2841

              #7
              Originally posted by e30_kid89
              hmmm....Is your check engine light when you turn the key to the "On" position (not start)?
              Yes

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              • e30_kid89
                E30 Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 489

                #8
                Alright thats good, does the fuel pump turn on briefly when you have the key on the on position as well?

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                • 318isbmw
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2841

                  #9
                  Originally posted by e30_kid89
                  Alright thats good, does the fuel pump turn on briefly when you have the key on the on position as well?
                  Nope

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                  • e30_kid89
                    E30 Addict
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 489

                    #10
                    I sorta had the same problem, no fuel/spark no pump prrming. I changed the crank position sensor and it fired up like it was nobodys business. With that faulty i know it will not start. Doesn't hurt to test it out.

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                    • 318isbmw
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2841

                      #11
                      Originally posted by e30_kid89
                      I sorta had the same problem, no fuel/spark no pump prrming. I changed the crank position sensor and it fired up like it was nobodys business. With that faulty i know it will not start. Doesn't hurt to test it out.
                      Ya, definitely will. Sadly tonight I took it to the exhaust shop so I won't have it back for a day or two to test that.

                      Ninja edit: what should the resistance be for testing the CPS?
                      Thanks

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                      • PiercedE30
                        R3V Elite
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 4220

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 318isbmw
                        Ya, definitely will. Sadly tonight I took it to the exhaust shop so I won't have it back for a day or two to test that.

                        Ninja edit: what should the resistance be for testing the CPS?
                        Thanks
                        490-560 Ohms
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                        • 318isbmw
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2841

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PiercedE30
                          490-560 Ohms
                          Thanks much, by chance do you have the resistance for the TPS sensor or does that need to be set to anything?

                          Thanks

                          New update on the not starting, turns out that the ews chip was left in the ecu, new ecu on the way so I can start the car.

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                          • PiercedE30
                            R3V Elite
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 4220

                            #14
                            4600 Ohms
                            My 2.9L Build!

                            Originally posted by Ernest Hemingway
                            There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

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                            • 318isbmw
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2841

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PiercedE30
                              4600 Ohms
                              Thanks much, wasn't able to figure that out.

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