Head stud question

[So Live]

Hey guys, just wondering if it was possible to put a head on with studs installed in the block all while bolted in an e30. Kinda thinking about upgrading to mls and studs but i dont want to take the engine out or lift it up at all.

thanks!

[matt]

I would think it would be a PITA. You'd have to modify the battery tray, I think.

The other question... why do you think an MLS and studs will be an "upgrade?"

[Borat]

you can install the studs after you have put the head and gasket back on, then tighten the nuts up.

[So Live]

15 - 20 pounds of boost + MLS = upgrade.

True, thanks for the idea borat

[So Live]

So no one has a 24v e30 with studs and tried putting the head on the motor in the car?

[matt]

I have a 24v e30 with studs, but I built my motor on a stand.

I seriously think you will NOT be able to put the head on over the studs with the block in the car. I think you MAY be able to thread in the studs through the head, but I wouldn't count on it... it's a pretty delicate process setting the studs in the block just so, so they still wobble and don't bind and break as you torque them.

[So Live]

Yeah. thats kinda why i was wondering but i can see where your coming from with the assumption of not being able to but i was hoping someone would know for sure.
Oh well. I guess with exhaust manifold and the intake manifold off it wouldnt be too bad of a job to lift the motor up to vertical. Well see, i have to get the car running on boost first :)

[So Live]

For future reference... I just found out you can put the head on with the block all bolted in the car and studs installed.

and i quote "yeah the head went back on with the engine in, and head studs installed. i think this is my new preferred way of assembly. it makes the engine / trans assembly really easy to drop in. i've had the head off a number of times (unfortunately) and there is plenty of clearance to get things together even with studs." Multiplex on BF.c

[matt]

You can also put the studs in after the head is on. I actually helped do it today.

[So Live]

right on. so we have options.

Looking at multiplex's build, he has the corner of the battery tray cut out for his downpipe. Maybe that helped too.