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  • Mohammed_A
    Grease Monkey
    • Oct 2008
    • 344

    #1

    Wiring - s50 into e30

    I have a 1986 320i, i am transplanting the s50b32 (euro) into my car, i am having a problem with the wiring(confused), when i had the m20 motor it was upgraded from 2.0 to 2.7 along with the wiring harness from the later model and the computer box (motronic) so i switched from having the ditributor on the side of the block to in front of the head.
    The wires coming out of the fuse box have obviously been cut and re joined onto the motronic plug - are the wires te same to join onto the e36 plug??? im lost
  • Mohammed_A
    Grease Monkey
    • Oct 2008
    • 344

    #2
    anyone?????

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    • FredK
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 14736

      #3
      Without more information, your guess is good as anyone else's.

      If you can identify and list all of the colors of the wires that remain on the C101 plug, that would help us help you.

      Originally posted by whysimon
      WTF is hello Kitty (I'm 28 with no kids and I don't have cable)

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      • DaveSmed
        E30 Fanatic
        • Apr 2007
        • 1406

        #4
        Heck, even with the S50B32 there are some questions. What did it come out of? Z3? M3?
        -Dave
        2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

        Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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        • Mohammed_A
          Grease Monkey
          • Oct 2008
          • 344

          #5
          Originally posted by FredK
          Without more information, your guess is good as anyone else's.

          If you can identify and list all of the colors of the wires that remain on the C101 plug, that would help us help you.

          i will make a list of the wire colours and post them, thanks

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          • Mohammed_A
            Grease Monkey
            • Oct 2008
            • 344

            #6
            Originally posted by DaveSmed
            Heck, even with the S50B32 there are some questions. What did it come out of? Z3? M3?
            it came out of a M3

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            • DaveSmed
              E30 Fanatic
              • Apr 2007
              • 1406

              #7
              Originally posted by Mohammed_A
              it came out of a M3
              Good deal, Here's some to start you off then.

              Code:
              -X20 25 Pin
              Pin  4  SW/BL  A/C Comp relay Input (-)     DME Pin 48
              Pin  5  SW/GR  A/C Compressor Input         DME Pin 65
              Pin  6  VI/GR  A/C Ready Input              DME Pin 64
              Pin  7  GN     EWS                          DME Pin 66
              Pin  8  GR     Fault Lamp                   DME Pin  8
              Pin 10  BL/GE  Reverse Light Switch
              Pin 11  BR/GE  Cluster thermo sensor
              Pin 12  BR/VI  Cluster thermo sensor
              Pin 13  GN/VI  Fuel Pump
              Pin 14  SW/WS  VSS Input                    DME Pin 42
              Pin 15  SW/GN  Poss. Unloader Relay
              Pin 16  WS/GE  RoC Diagnostic Port Conn.
              Pin 17  WS/VI  RoC Diagnostic Port Conn.    DME Pin 88
              Pin 18  SW/GE  EWS/Start
              Pin 19  WS/GN  SI Board Reset-To Diag Pin 7
              Pin 20  SW     Tach Signal Out (Cluster)    DME Pin 47
              Pin 21  GN     Ign+
              Pin 22  GN/WS  02 Sensor heater rly, 10A
              Pin 23  BR/GN  Oil Pressure Switch
              Pin 24  WS/SW  Fuel Rate Signal (Cluster)   DME Pin 46
              Pin 25  BL     Alternator D+
              
              
              -X6031 12 Pin
              Pin  9  BL/BR  Upshift Signal               DME Pin 62
              Pin 10  BR/RT  Oil Temp Sender
              Pin 11  SW/RT  Aux Fan relay                DME Pin 53
              Pin 12  VI/SW  Oil Level Signal             DME Pin 17
              -Dave
              2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

              Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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              • Massive Lee
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2006
                • 6782

                #8
                Mohamed, be aware that the US M3 motor is vey different from the rest-of-the-world, and that connections will differ. If you are handy with the French language, here are the connections for the real e36 M3 motor into your e30.



                Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

                massivebrakes.com

                http://www.facebook.com/pages/Massiv...78417442267056





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                • rThor432
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3907

                  #9
                  ^^Exellent post! Where did you come across that?

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                  • Massive Lee
                    R3V OG
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 6782

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rThor432
                    ^^Exellent post! Where did you come across that?
                    French e30 M3 forum. Traduction of that short article would be great as it highlights many glitches that most people are not aware of, because the real M3 motor is so different fro the US one.
                    Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

                    massivebrakes.com

                    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Massiv...78417442267056





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                    • DaveSmed
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1406

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Massive Lee
                      French e30 M3 forum. Traduction of that short article would be great as it highlights many glitches that most people are not aware of, because the real M3 motor is so different fro the US one.
                      Ah dammit. Lee, you wouldn't happen to be familiar with the swap, would you? This is the second reference to -X20 Pin 9 that I have seen for oil temp. My ETM for the UK M3 shows it going through -X6031
                      -Dave
                      2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

                      Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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                      • Mohammed_A
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 344

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Massive Lee
                        Mohamed, be aware that the US M3 motor is vey different from the rest-of-the-world, and that connections will differ. If you are handy with the French language, here are the connections for the real e36 M3 motor into your e30.



                        Thanks lee, this would help alot, first of all i am confused with the codes, which plug is which, c101 etc. which one would be on my car? and which on the m3 harness....

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                        • DaveSmed
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1406

                          #13
                          I just checked, there is nothing in pin 9 on my harness. That list does NOT match my engine.
                          -Dave
                          2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

                          Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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                          • DaveSmed
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1406

                            #14
                            Nvm. Lee, that list you posted is for the 3.0L I guess there are some connector differences between 3.0L and 3.2L

                            I'd love a translation of that article though.
                            -Dave
                            2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

                            Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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                            • Mohammed_A
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 344

                              #15
                              Here is some pics of the wiring as well as a list of what goes into where, hope somebody can help.....













                              C101 ------------------------ FUSE BOX

                              1 - BLUE ----------------------- 2X BLUE
                              2- BLUE/BLACK ------------------------ XXX
                              4- BROWN/striped ----------------------- BROWN
                              5- BLACK/BROWN ---------------------- BLACK/BROWN
                              6- GREEN/YELLOW ---------------------- GREEN/YELLOW
                              7-GREEN ---------------------- GREEN
                              8- YELLOW/WHITE ---------------------- XXX
                              9- BLACK ---------------------- XXX
                              10- PURPLE/GREEN --------------------- PURPLE/GREEN
                              11- WHITE/BLUE --------------------- WHITE/BLUE
                              12- BROWN --------------------- XXX
                              13- PURPLE/RED ---------------------- PURPLE/RED
                              14- BLUE/YELLOW ---------------------- BLUE/YELLOW
                              15- BLACK/YELLOW --------------------- XXX
                              18- BLACK/YELLOW -------------------- BLACK/YELLOW
                              20- BROWN -------------------- XXX


                              all XXX denote the wire is just loose and not connected to anything
                              Last edited by Mohammed_A; 12-27-2008, 02:15 PM.

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