Can't hurt, but I'm sure you wouldn't keep driving with a low oil pressure light on like the dumbass who drove my car did. ;)
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Originally posted by Andrew325is View PostIf I gave you a complete parts list then you wouldn't have any fun. :DYour signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
Originally posted by Wh33lhopVANOS: sometimes you just need to go full retard.
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Originally posted by Andrew325is View PostIf I gave you a complete parts list then you wouldn't have any fun. :DOBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25
Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30
Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine
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Originally posted by gobuffs View PostHaving done a Euro swap and an S54....the S54 is another order a magnitude in cost over any other swap if done right. The electronics that need to be addressed will cost at least $1500 and up.
I like the garage although doesn't it get cold in the winter?
Why is this?
What necessary programming is needed for an S54 to run in an E30?
It's already been established you don't HAVE to delete EWS...
What else?Originally posted by TSI♫ Rust flecks are falling on my head...♫OEM+
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It is because the reflash is fairly pricey, around $1200 at current exchange rates. A DBW accelerator pedal is around $100 new, and the various wiring components will run around $30++ depending on where and how you get your components, new or used, and the grade of wiring you choose.
Originally posted by whysimonWTF is hello Kitty (I'm 28 with no kids and I don't have cable)
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Originally posted by lolcantturn View PostWhy is this?
What necessary programming is needed for an S54 to run in an E30?
It's already been established you don't HAVE to delete EWS...
What else?
basically, if you have to ask... you know where I'm going with this.
you can get flashes for much less. any of you guys hear of Evolve? you get a flash cable and a tuned file for $999. and you can upgrade the tune later or transfer it to another car for under $100. for $3500 you also get a CF airbox. :p
I think that's a WAY better deal than $1500-$2000, to mail your DME somewhere, get a black-box tune from some random dude, and then be pretty much stuck with whatever you get.
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Originally posted by nando View Postkeep reading. the computer systems on the E46 all talk to each other. so if you're removing the ECU from that environment, it's going to throw a lot of errors when it can't communicate with the other modules. Most likely it will go into limp mode.Originally posted by TSI♫ Rust flecks are falling on my head...♫OEM+
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I didn't see a DSC delete from Evolve? Deleting post cat O2s, switching to "Alpha-N", US tuners have been doing that for a while.
I really dig their carbon airbox, though. It's inexpensive given the tooling, manufacturing costs, and market timing (towards the end of the S54 lifecycle).
Originally posted by whysimonWTF is hello Kitty (I'm 28 with no kids and I don't have cable)
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Never been a member here but I read and research everywhere. I'm doing S54 + E36 M3 and 99% certain to use MSS54 DME without expensive send-it-to-Germany-and-pray EWS delete tuning.
Originally posted by lolcantturn View PostWhy is this?
What necessary programming is needed for an S54 to run in an E30?
It's already been established you don't HAVE to delete EWS...
What else?
- DME, EWS and key, and instrument cluster from same E46 M3
- EWS reader "ring" (normally mounted inside ignition cylinder) with key attached near or inside the "ring"
- late model (9/02 or later) MK60 DSC/ABS unit - its easy to tell early from late, the late ones are on the driver's side under the master cylinder
- two brake pressure sensors - threaded into the E46 M3 master cylinder, but who says they have to be? MITE46 (previously E30MIT) tee'd them into the lines from the master cylinder to the DSC/ABS unit
- DSC sensor - combined yaw gyro and lateral accelerometer - mounted under driver's seat in E46 (and its location IS critical)
- This setup is used in a C Mod car which has been racing for four years.
If you install it like this (with no steering angle sensor) none of the DSC/traction control features work but the full 4 channel ABS works normally. If you install the steering angle sensor and wire a DSC pushbutton to the MK60 unit you can have fully functional E46 M3 DSC and ABS - but I don't know about you, I really don't want to have to turn off DSC every time...
(I cannot promise that the early MK20 DSC/ABS unit will or won't work - but I do know that the later MK60 unit will. The early MK20 unit will use standard E30/E36 wheel speed sensors, but requires that you obtain, mount, and wire a "precharge pump". The late MK60 unit requires no additional pump, but does require E46 wheel speed sensors).
Originally posted by FredK View PostI didn't see a DSC delete from Evolve? Deleting post cat O2s, switching to "Alpha-N", US tuners have been doing that for a while.Last edited by nucci; 02-23-2012, 11:35 PM.
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Originally posted by nando View Postthey don't show it on the website, but I talked to them about it, they can do pretty much anything you want.
Originally posted by nucci View PostNever been a member here but I read and research everywhere. I'm doing S54 + E36 M3 and 99% certain to use MSS54 DME without expensive send-it-to-Germany-and-pray EWS delete tuning.
I think the collective "we" have known that you can move over most sensors to the E30 and enjoy no limp-mode codes. MITE46 documented his swap reasonably well. The piece of information that is new to me is that the steering angle sensor does not necessarily need to be there for the car not to go into limp-mode.
I am also guessing that a lack of a secondary air pump, leakage diagnosis pump, and evap canister solenoid won't cause the car to limp?
Originally posted by whysimonWTF is hello Kitty (I'm 28 with no kids and I don't have cable)
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Originally posted by FredK View PostI think the collective "we" have known that you can move over most sensors to the E30 and enjoy no limp-mode codes. MITE46 documented his swap reasonably well. The piece of information that is new to me is that the steering angle sensor does not necessarily need to be there for the car not to go into limp-mode.
Originally posted by FredK View PostI am also guessing that a lack of a secondary air pump, leakage diagnosis pump, and evap canister solenoid won't cause the car to limp?
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