help! Swap cranks but no start

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  • jink0619
    E30 Modder
    • Dec 2011
    • 808

    #16
    It's probably something really simple you forgot or got mixed up. Recheck all your engine connections, cam sensor, cps, tps, etc. For me, it was the wrong fuel pump relay and I didn't have fuel rail connectors clicked into injectors, no start is a fuel or spark problem so look things over you'll get it running.

    Also are ur fuel feed and return lines correct?
    Last edited by jink0619; 01-29-2016, 09:41 PM.
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    • frantic
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 62

      #17
      Yeah I had the same problem, Mine didn't start initially and I had to go over it all again after just leaving it for a week so I wasn't angrily going through it.

      The TB's will not move until the engine starts btw, I wondered the same thing.

      The fact your DME is priming the fuel pump is a positive step. Have you checked for things like if it's sparking? Is there fuel at the rail (guessing so since the pump is priming)

      There is a fuse box on the o2 sensor loom worth checking too..

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      • jink0619
        E30 Modder
        • Dec 2011
        • 808

        #18
        With ignition to on position the TBs should open with gas pedal down, mine does it.

        Try spraying some starter fluid see if it will turn over
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        • diesekte
          E30 Addict
          • Sep 2013
          • 417

          #19
          Yes, fuel feed and return are correct. I tried spraying starting fluid and it didn't work.
          I was able to find my KDCAN cable but the version of INPA I had no longer works after my computer updated to stupid windows 10

          I dug up an older laptop it should work on but can't find a working link...anyone?
          Last edited by diesekte; 01-30-2016, 09:52 AM.

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          • diesekte
            E30 Addict
            • Sep 2013
            • 417

            #20
            Alright gents....finally found a buddy in possession of a handheld obd2 scanner, and I'm getting a plethora of codes.
            P0121
            P0123
            P0221
            P0335
            P2122
            P2126
            P1637
            Have gotten P1504 and P1508 a time or two as well

            Some are intermittent if I clear them. I looked at the connections for all sensors and unplugged then plugged them back in.
            Car now starts but then promptly fucks off. Runs anywhere from 1 to 5 seconds. If I push the throttle pedal at all it immediately dies.
            Is it more likely that 2 TPS, a crank sensor, and the sensor in the gas pedal are haywire, or the wiring harness that came with my swap is toast.
            If the harness is bad, can I use the harness from an e46 m3 smg car even though I have the 6 speed? I ask because there is one on ebay that looks reasonable but I think it is smg

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            • frantic
              Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 62

              #21
              Yes, the main m3 engine loom should be the same, the only difference is the o2/transmission loom is different and has alot more wiring. I have an SMG one and it works fine.

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              • jink0619
                E30 Modder
                • Dec 2011
                • 808

                #22
                Hmmm maybe a bad ICV? Or it's not plugged in correctly?
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                • diesekte
                  E30 Addict
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 417

                  #23
                  The icv should be good. It was a known working unit I got with my car in a spare box that for some reason is actually for s54. It is clean and the valve moves freely.

                  I tinkered further and the car will now stay on. However when I push the gas pedal it does absolutely nothing. Are there some pins I can check voltages on on the TPS, gas pedal, or throttle actuator to pinpoint the problem?

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                  • jink0619
                    E30 Modder
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 808

                    #24
                    Do u have the pedal plugged in? Lol

                    Again is the throttle actuator plugged in correctly?
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                    • diesekte
                      E30 Addict
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 417

                      #25
                      Yes and yes

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                      • jink0619
                        E30 Modder
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 808

                        #26
                        What happens when u pull on the throttle actuator? Does the car rev?
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                        • frantic
                          Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 62

                          #27
                          I would guess you have one of the plugs on the actuator wrong? IIRC there were 2 3 pin plugs, one for a TPS and the other for the actual throttle.

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                          • diesekte
                            E30 Addict
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 417

                            #28
                            Took a look at things....there is one 2 prong sensor for the throttle actuator, and one 3 prong sensor for the tps. Connections are clicked all the way on. No love with the gas pedal and if I manually open the TPS by pulling on the linkage, the car immediately dies

                            It will run indefinitely if I just leave it be but the second it gets even a little bit of the throttle body open (by me doing it manually) it shuts down...like it's leaning out or something
                            Last edited by diesekte; 01-31-2016, 04:27 PM.

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                            • gobuffs
                              E30 Addict
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 513

                              #29
                              There is a TPS on the throttle and one on the actuator. If they aren't in agreement you will have issues. Where in Texas are you?

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                              • diesekte
                                E30 Addict
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 417

                                #30
                                I will probably try to replace both TPS then. They're only like 50$ and even if they aren't totally shot I guess it's not going to do any harm.
                                I'm in downtown fort worth.

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