What sway bars are you running? (325iX only)

[cappa240]

Korman "modified" front bar

While reading this thread I remembered that Korman engineering offers a "modified front bar" for iX. Does anyone have any idea what that means? I've been wondering for a decade...

Text from the website:

Korman Roadsport Suspension Systems

Our best selling suspension package is comfortable enough for daily use, yet provides substantially improved handling for winding roads and weekend club events. Kit includes:

4 progressive rate springs which lower the car 1.3" front and rear

front and rear adjustable anti-sway bars (22mm/19mm) (iX receives a modified stiffer stock front sway bar, 19mm rear bar)

polyurethane sway bar bushings and bushing lubricant

Bilstein Sport shocks, front and rear (heavy duty Bilsteins for iX)

[Kershaw]

It definitely still understeers, but I can get a bit of oversteer if I try hard enough.I've been meaning to take the rallyx ix on an autox. If I can get to it this weekend I'll post back.

[nando]

When my swaybar link broke, the handling was.. Not good. I wouldn't reccomend disconnecting it for track/autox. I think there is a big difference between tarmac and rally, anyway.

When i was logging tire temps it appeared to me lack of negative camber (and overheating the outside edge of the tires) contributed the most to understeer. Also, if you get to the point of a "zero" understeer balance, you end up with a car that snap oversteers instead.

In short, attempting to dial out all understeer will not result in good results. It is what it is.

[Kershaw]

I'm not sure why someone would want a stiffer front sway bar with the ix though. It's already prone to understeer and it does not really have that great of an ability to induce power oversteer. If you want to get it to rotate you really have to do a Scandinavian flick. Maybe so you can pair with a much stiffer rear sway?

I removed my front sway bar on the rallycross ix and it still isn't neutral, but it's a hell of a lot better. Stock rear bar.

[downforce22]

i picked up an ix touring bar for the front. it seemed to tie it together a little better

[Kershaw]

I'm 96% sure an e36 m3 bar is going to fit no problem. The only snag might be the bushings.

[nando]

If you compare his pic to the stock pic, it appears to be the same as far as clearance goes. As far as the relocation for link mount, I think an adjustable endllink would solve that. Not sure that relocation of link mount is necessary. If I had an e36 sway bar on hand, I would be trying this tomorrow.

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With coilovers you must reattach the link bracket anyway. May as well move it to the best spot. :)

[jeenyus]

Any more information on this? I've been curious about a swaybar upgrade for a while. I've even considered just getting a piece of metal bend to match, but i like the idea of the M3 bar more.

[fresh_TD]

It's not. If you look at the pictures, he moved the swaybar link attachment points on the strut housings. Also it doesn't appear that the swaybar link is vertical, but maybe that doesn't matter since it just reduces the effectiveness of the bar, but it's still a lot stiffer because the bar is so much larger than stock.

I'd be more worried about clearance issues but it would seem to be OK. This looks like a great solution, if you do coilovers you have to move the swaybar link attachment point anyway.

If you compare his pic to the stock pic, it appears to be the same as far as clearance goes. As far as the relocation for link mount, I think an adjustable endllink would solve that. Not sure that relocation of link mount is necessary. If I had an e36 sway bar on hand, I would be trying this tomorrow.

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[nando]

It's not. If you look at the pictures, he moved the swaybar link attachment points on the strut housings. Also it doesn't appear that the swaybar link is vertical, but maybe that doesn't matter since it just reduces the effectiveness of the bar, but it's still a lot stiffer because the bar is so much larger than stock.

I'd be more worried about clearance issues but it would seem to be OK. This looks like a great solution, if you do coilovers you have to move the swaybar link attachment point anyway.

[fresh_TD]

Can anyone confirm if the e36M3 front swaybar is a straight bolt on solution?

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[dirtyEthirtyIX]

Could you possibly help me out and get measurements of the length of the endlinks and the measurement of the sway bar tabs from the top of the knuckle please? I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!

[dirtyEthirtyIX]

Nice. I just ordered the garagistic away bar tabs.

[Chrisbike]

This is my car. Let me know if you guys have questions.

Wow, wasn’t expecting you to comment. I was mainly talking to nick on your car.

I’ll be buying a bar to see if the gc mounts/ endlinks will work but if it’s convenient. Honestly it almost looks like my setup would work better as long as the links aren’t too short.

Do you remember what poly bushing you have in there? I’d assume it’s modified to size. I’ve seen a few iX specific bushings online (I think)

Oh and it sounds like they are all the same besides thickness for e36 bars
95 M3 22.5mm front
96+ M3 23mm front
pre-6/92 build 325 25mm front
post-6/92 build 325 24mm front
328 non-Sport 24mm front
328 Sport 24mm front
318ti Sport 25.5mm front

[rede30]

With adjustable end links and tabs welded in new location I was able to run this setup.