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  • Conrad311
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    seriously, ive used this thread to fix countless little things on my car that i couldnt find anywhere else. thank you for such attention to detail in you write ups

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  • CorvallisBMW
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    seriously, every update is like God's own manual on how to build an e30. I salute you good sir.

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  • 619E30
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    WOW... A very well described thread, that is some major miracle work right there

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  • xworks
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    and just like the similar ones on the inside of the window, these also
    have a rubber weather strip on the inside of them. The rubber strips
    on mine had succumbed to the ravages of twenty odd years of weather
    unfortunately, and any attempt to lower the window to clear off the condensation
    on a winters morning would simply result in a fancy streaky pattern on the
    glass. The answer, new rubber strips. Their still available and don't cost
    a lot from the dealer.........





    Rubber strips attach to the trim with a few clips..........





    but you gotta measure where exactly it's to clip on..........



    as the rubber strip is shorter than the trim because it only needs to
    sit in against the glass..........



    That done, next thing to go back on is the mirrors...........



    which are held on by two little bolts on the inside.........



    Final bit to go on is the rubber seal at the top of the door........



    The rubber seal has a groove in it and a hole at either end.......



    and at the top of the door there is a ridge sticking out (red arrows)
    that sits into the groove on the rubber seal to hold it on, and a hole at each
    end that a plastic rivet sits through the seal and into the door to secure it.........







    and thats about where it's at right now. We've progressed to the stage
    where I can now sit in it and make brum brum noises while twirling the
    steering wheel. Marvellous entertainment.









    Till next time.

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  • xworks
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    Moving up the door a little the final bit of trim to get refitted is this cover that
    goes on the inside of the door pillar. 3 little dowels on the inside of the trim
    and 3 little holes on the door pillar..........



    thump, thump, thump, job done..........



    and then finally on to the outside of the door. All the shadow trim on the outside
    of the car was sanded down with 320 grit wet & dry paper and then sprayed
    with Plasti-kote Satin black..........





    Although it's touch dry after a few hours it's best to try and leave it a few days
    to fully harden before trying to refit it, as when it's fully hardened and settled
    it's a lot more resistant to scratching. First bit to go on is the door pillar cover.......



    as you can see the edges of the cover curls around on the inside........



    and it's this curl that "clips" around the door pillar to hold it in place,



    however this isn't enough to hold it for ever and ever on it's own, so
    a few fat blobs of this stuff is placed between the two.......



    It's Upol Tiger Seal and you'll pull the door off the car before you'll pull
    that trim off once it set's.
    Next bit of trim's a bit more involved, it's the little bit that goes around the
    window frame...........



    There's a clatter of clips that fit to the door first before the trim goes
    on, I've no idea how many it originally had coming off as most of mine
    decided to commit suicide during disassembly. I've managed to turn up
    16 of them from spares, so each doors gettin eight............



    the non-compliant clips...........



    before Hari Kari.........



    they slide onto the frame like so............





    and trim, just like the pillar trim is curved over at the edges and this is
    how it fixes onto the door. The top half sits over the frame and then
    the bottom half clicks on over the clips............



    Last bit of door trim is the straight bit below..........



    They sit at the bottom of the window...........


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  • xworks
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    With all the wiring ran to wherever it needs to go and then secured to
    the door skin with the little clips, it's worth running the window fully up
    and down just to check that it doesn't snag on any of the electrics.
    With all that done the final thing to do is seal the inside of the door
    to stop condensation getting in. You can buy proper sticky plastic
    stuff from the dealer to do this job, or, just use double sided trim tape
    and normal polythene like so..........





    with that on, the little trim strip that sits up against the window on the inside
    can clip back into place............



    making sure that the little clips face inwards as the door card is going to
    sit down into these next..........



    but before the doorcard drops on these little bits go on first........



    The 3 white ones are for the the armrest screws to screw into..........



    and the black one goes on the side of the door as it's the diddy that the
    door light switch presses up against.........



    then the doorcard can drop on. It's fitted by sliding down onto them clips
    shown earlier on the window strip and once down in place the clips shown
    below are thumped into their corresponding holes on the door...........



    and with the doorcard in place this little bit of trim can go back in place
    around the open lever.........



    it's pushed in slightly behind the lever and then slid forward to lock it
    in place..........



    which leaves it looking like so...........



    finally these 3 screws are used to refit the door handle..........




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  • xworks
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    Locking system done, it was on to the window mechanism. Before the
    electric motor and rail is refitted the rail and the cable that runs in it are cleaned
    and new grease applied. The two parts that the window connect to are arrowed
    red below, and when you hook up the two wires that go to the motor to a
    battery they will either rise or fall depending on which way around you
    connect the two wires.............



    and these are raised and lowered a few times to work the new grease into
    the rails to keep things working smoothly.............



    With that done the rail and motor is refitted and bolted up to the inside of
    the door skin. There's a very precise method for slotting the rail back into the
    door skin, basically you f*ck around with it for 30 minutes trying it every
    conceivable way before all of a sudden it's in and you've no idea how you done it.
    Four bolts hold the rail in place (red arrows) and 3 nuts hold the motor in (green).........



    before the glass can go in the rubber liner needs to be refitted to the
    window frame............





    Glass gets a clean, which turns out to be completely pointless as your going to cover
    it with greasy paw prints anyway while getting it back in.........



    theres two brackets on the bottom of the glass, this one on the front
    which the roller on the rail will slide into............



    and this one at the rear which the other rail bracket bolts up to.............



    If, like me, your doing this task before the electrics are reconnected,
    you can remove this little rubber grommet from the centre of the motor............



    and stick an allen key into it to wind the window up and down manually.......



    The motor is wound up or down to bring the two points the window connects
    to into line with the gaps on the inner door skin, so you can see what your at
    as the window in slid down into place. The front window bracket is slid onto the
    roller on the rail first.........



    and then the rear is lined up with its bracket so the two retaining
    bolts can be refitted...........



    as you can see the slots in the bracket are elongated to allow a little
    scope for adjustment and getting the window perfectly straight within
    the frame. To do this you tighten up the two bolts, wind up the window
    to within 1 inch of the top frame and then get the gap completely
    parallel by loosening off the two bolts again and raising or lowering
    the rear of the window............



    That done, door loom went in next...........



    it's all fed in through this hole...........



    and then plug into the female plug on the door pillar, making sure
    that the rubber boot is properly fitted over the the holes on either side
    as this can be a common source of water getting into the car.
    Another thing thats not a bad idea can be to rub a little smear of
    grease on the sealing face of the rubber boots just to give a little
    more resistance to water ingress.........


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  • xworks
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    The body of the key barrel is shaped so that it'll only fit in the hole in the
    door one way without the use of a sledgehammer.........



    and, as the barrel passes through the door skin that little "leg" that sticks out
    the side of it needs to engage with the lever on the main locking unit arrowed
    below...........



    Easy right? Is it f*ck! As the barrel passes through the door it's also
    got to pass through the bracket for the central locking switch which
    has to be in the right position so that the barrel triggers the
    switch as it is turned............



    and then, with all that held in place by your fourteen f*cking Smurf size
    hands you've got to slide in this clip to keep it all held tight to the door skin...........





    and after much swearing and consumption of alcohol it's in and this is how it should
    work. When you rotate the key barrel the back end of the barrel (coloured
    green below) either pushes the lever on the main locking unit up or down
    to lock or unlock the door, while a little wedge on the other side of the barrel
    pushes against the central locking switch to send a signal back to the central
    locking unit to open or close the other doors............



    next up the inner door release lever.............



    on the back of it theres a little lever with a hole in it............



    the long steel rod sticking out of the main door locking unit fits into this
    hole like so.................



    and then the lever can be screwed into place on the door............



    And then finally the last piece of the jigsaw, the central locking actuator,
    the little motor that locks and unlocks your door..............



    it hangs from the little link bar from the main locking unit shown below.......





    and bolts up to the inner doorskin with two little bolts shown below........


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  • xworks
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    With the interior fitted next up was to sling the doors back on.
    Never a bad idea to run a piece of masking tape on the edge of the
    door and back edge of the wing to avoid marking the paint work when
    rehanging a door. They have to get fairly close to each other to engage
    the hinges........



    If you ever need to remove the doors from an e30 theres two ways
    to go about it. The first is to remove the two m8 nuts seen below on
    the leaf of the hinge left attached to the door. This leaves the whole
    hinge attached to the car and has the big downside that you have to go
    through the whole hassle of re-aligning the door upon refitting before
    you tighten them nuts again to keep it in the right position.
    The less stressful way of doing it is to let go of the two
    little m6 bolts in the centre of the hinges, which leaves half of
    each hinge attached to the door and the other half attached to the
    car. This makes reassembly far easier, as all you have to do is drop
    the door back down into place, refit the m6 bolts and bingo, it's
    done.......





    with the door refitted all this crap needs to be nailed back into each one.......



    first up being the check strap who's job it is to stop the door from opening too
    wide. After a quick clean up and some fresh grease............



    it bolts up inside the door with the strap part sticking out like below
    and then the pin and circlip are refitted (arrowed) to lock the strap to
    the door frame..........



    next up, the locking mechanism. The main door lock on the lower left and
    the release pin linkage above it (arrowed)............



    the lock mechanism bolts up inside the door by 3 philips head bolts
    fitted from the outside...........



    and after its in the door handle mechanism can follow it...........



    first bit to go in, is the little plate with 2 threaded studs fitted to it, shown
    above. It slots down into the recess arrowed below..............





    then with that in place the main bit can be bolted onto those studs, making
    sure that the bits that push against each other line up like below..........



    which when all in place leaves you with the two little bits protruding
    through the door skin to screw the handle on to............





    after thats in the bits below can be fitted. The key barrel, the
    bracket for holding the central locking microswitch and the clip
    that keeps it all in place...........



    before fitting it's a good idea to give the key barrel a clean up and
    apply a little oil into the tumblers to keep them freed up......


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  • xworks
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    and as you can see in the pics the ends of the bar are square
    sectioned, which is helpful, as this allows the seat belt buckle
    to be bolted up and held in the correct position..........





    The other side gets a few washers to take up the gap before being
    bolted up aswell. The last little bit to remember is this little link bar that
    fits from one rail to the other. Its function is to link the catch on one side
    to the catch on the other, so when you pull the lever to adjust the seat
    back or forward it opens the catch on the side of the lever and this little link bar unlocks
    the catch on the other side, allowing the seat to slide..........



    and that was the front seats ready to go in. But, the rears needed to
    go in first and before the rears could go in, the rear door cards had to
    be fitted and before they could be fitted the front seat belts had to be fitted.
    And if I knew all that before having to find it out the hard way my nextdoor
    neighbours visiting grandchildren would know a lot less foul language.

    So, front seat belts were needed first and this presented me with a small
    problem, after 20 years the retraction reels had gone so limp on them I reckon
    you'd be a good foot or two through the windscreen before the original belts
    decided to halt your progress. Alas, some new belts would be required.
    And if I was going to renew them might as well go for the red variety fitted
    to the sport evolutions. Unfortunately I couldn't come up with the one million
    dollars in untraceable bonds that the main dealer wanted for a pair of seat belts
    so ebay turned up these instead...........



    They are seat belts made by a crowd called Securon and as the tag below shows
    they're fully certified and "E" marked........



    They can be ordered with 2 different length buckles, 15cm or 30cm.

    I ordered the 15cm ones (p/n: 500/15) and of coarse when I went to fit them realised
    that the 30cm length (p/n: 500/30) would have been more suitable. Gobshite.
    Thankfully the buckle could be stripped and the original e30 strap fitted
    to replace the short Securon one...............



    Next little mod was to the buckle at the end of the belt. As you can see
    below it's an eye bolt type and the e30 has the bar type, so......



    chop, chop..........



    with that done it could be fitted. The reel part bolts in just like the original one..........



    little plastic thingy refitted to keep the belt run neat.........



    up to the top buckle supplied with the belts that bolts into the B pillar
    to replace the original one.........



    and then finally down to the bar at the floor now that the eye bolt type
    buckle was cut off...........




    the only downside to the belts is that when fully retracted in the rest position
    they still don't pull taut. The belts still have about 2 inches slack in them as
    you can see below. However given that these cost less than a quarter of
    the ransom Bmw wanted for the genuine one's, it's something I'll not loose
    any sleep over...........



    once the belts were in, rear door cards and seats could also go in...........



    to be followed by the fronts..........







    and thats all for now. Should have the next part up tomorrow.
    Till then.

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  • xworks
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    Episode 453, Interior design.

    With the wiring and carpet refitted to the inside it was now time to sort out
    the internal furniture. A while back I'd managed to pick up a second hand set of
    Recaro Sr's and although the material was a bit grubby the actual seats were in
    perfect condition otherwise.............



    So these along with all the rest of the interior shown below were sent
    to a local retrim merchant to give them a new lease of life..........



    Decided to go with half cow's arse and half material, like so..........





    Next up was to get some brackets knocked up to mount the Recaro's
    on the standard e30 slider rails.



    With the brackets trimmed and drilled it was time to bolt them up to the
    seat base so I could mark them up for bending. There are few things more certain
    in this life to send you into a rage then spending ages carefully making brackets
    only to bend them the wrong way. I've the hammer marks on the garage
    roof to prove it..........



    bendy, bendy, painty, painty.......



    before giving the original sliders a clean up............



    making sure to apply a little fresh grease to the runners afterwards........



    needed a few spacers before the brackets could mount to the runners,
    so, chopped two 15mm length pieces(or 13mm, can't remember, and it's pissin rain out
    there so I can't be arsed going out to measure them) off some round bar and drilled
    them 8mm in the centre............



    which sit into the runners like so............





    and with them in place I could start bolting thing up. The mounts on the
    front of the runners sit a little more inboard compared to the rears (5mm),
    so to keep everything straight and true 3 little washers are added between
    the bracket and runner, like so...........



    The only thing to watch out for is that the bolt used on the side with the
    adjuster arm isn't to long, as if it is, it'll get in the way of the arm
    moving up and down to unlock the seat rail...........




    Front bolts taken care of, it was on to the rear. The bar arrowed below
    passes through the runners both sides at the back..........



    and sticks out through the seat brackets like so.........


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  • castros
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    WOW I cannot believe my eyes, sir you are one sick being! You give me hope for my M3 thank you.

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  • Beach Bum
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    Oh... My... God... This is my dream.

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  • xworks
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    to look like so.........



    and then on to the small matter of battering the window into place.
    Both "B" and "C" pillar trims need to be in place inside first..........



    and then the rubber needs to be lubed up (no matter what way you
    type that it still ends up sounding like a ropey porn film).............







    and then we need a length of electrical able, nice and skinny, a single
    strand of speaker cable usually does the job..........



    wrap the cable around the rubber so that it sits into the groove that was
    just soaped up.........



    and then finally plaster the metal edge in the window frame that the rubber
    sits over with plenty of soap as well............



    The next bit is a two man job, it can help if your assistant is smaller than
    you and has a peaceful nature, that way you can bollock him if the job
    starts to go wrong without fear of having your nose broken.
    The window is held tightly up against the frame making sure that the 2
    threaded bolts (arrowed below) have entered their holes on the "B" pillar........



    and if your assistant has held the window in just tight enough so that the
    rubber is a little squashed against the frame, when you start to pull the speaker
    cable through from inside the car, it'll pop the rubber lip over the frame rail in
    the process.............



    and voilla, the windows fitted. Screw up the 2 nuts on to the frame bolts
    that went into the holes on the "B" pillar and thats it. Make sure to thank
    your assistant before blaming him for any scratches on the outside bodywork
    that you made months ago..............



    With the window in, the external "C" pillar trim can now go on........



    First up you gotta attach the shadow trim piece to the painted piece
    with the aid of these 5 little thingamajigs..........



    they just pop into the 5 little holes on the painted piece...........



    and then the centre peg is bashed down to spread the underneath piece
    so that they don't fall off again while your doing 100 on the motorway.......



    with these in place the shadow trim piece just snaps down onto them.
    Then you need 6 of these little dudes (3 for each side of the car)
    p/n 51131870459.........



    which fit into the "C" pillar (red arrows) and another little pair of grommets
    (one for each side) to go in at the blue arrow..........




    On the back of the trim piece there's 4 little dowels which pop in to
    the grommets above, to hold the trim on to the car. The dowels are
    fragile and the grommets are tight so you've gotta be real gentle fitting
    them.............





    With all the rear glass in, the rear bootlid could go back on and the rear
    bumper. Which leaves the car currently looking like this...............











    And thats about all for now. She's starting to come back together
    now, and the pace is getting a little quicker as the finishing post is
    in sight (lets face it, it couldn't go any slower). The interior is due back from
    retrim in the next week or so and then the doors can be rebuilt and refitted.
    So it shouldn't be as long till the next update.
    Maybe.

    Till then...............

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  • xworks
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    And eventually we arrive at the final episode of this update. Glass.
    The original front windscreen at 20 odd years old, looked like it had been
    shot at close range with a blunderbus elephant gun. Every square inch was
    covered in little chips. So it's being replaced with a new one. The windscreen
    is aftermarket and is made by a crowd called Pilkington. Which means its a lot
    cheaper than from Bmw and also as good a quality. There seems to be a few choices
    of tint levels and I went with the green with dark green sun strip at the top as
    this was identical to what was removed...........







    No pictures of during the task i'm afraid, but the one little thing to
    be careful of though is that the little drain holes at the bottom of the
    windscreen surround don't get blocked up with the sealant/adhesive gue.

    With the front one in, it was on to the rear screen which is slightly more involved.
    Theres two trim strips that fit around the rear screen and I was sure that these
    could be fitted after the screen was in, however, as usual I was wrong........



    on the back side of the trim strips theres a load of little slots........



    and this is the reason why. 18 of these little plastic clips below are fitted
    to the outside edge of the screen (p/n 51318177850 sold in pack of 20).
    They've a little sticky pad on them to bond to the screen.......





    The only catch is they've to be stuck in exactly the right place to match
    up with the slots in the trim peices. I was a bit lucky in this regard, as
    this is the original windscreen that was cut out intact and is good to go
    back in again. The old clips broke to pieces upon removal but there was
    still marks on the screen where they were fitted, so the new ones just had to
    go back on to the same place............





    With the clips on, the 2 trim pieces could be snapped down onto them
    and with a fat bead of adhesive on the rear of the screen it was thrown into
    place.........



    nearly forgot, theres two other little plastic pegs that sit at the bottom
    between the glass and the bodywork. They're hexagonal in shape and you
    can twist them with a flat screwdriver while the adhesive is still wet to
    3 different heights to help set the windscreen trim gaps right with the
    surrounding bodywork.........





    Screens in, it was on to the rear side glass........



    glass sits into its rubber..........





    and then the shadow trim needs to be fitted to the outside of the rubber.......



    on the inside of the trim theres a raised edge..........



    and this edge needs to sit into this groove in the rubber...............



    to lessen the chances of a hammer being taken to the glass during this job
    out of rage, we use some lubricant, in the form of some washing up liquid
    watered down a little bit.........



    Once your not stingey with the washing up liquid its usually fairly simple
    to massage the rubber enough to get the trim to slot down into its groove.......



    last bit to go on is this little strip of rubber which slides up on the front
    edge of the trim.............


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