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  • DatUtahGuy
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2007
    • 3146

    #16
    When u sand down body work(aka bondo) you only need to sand down to about 300grit, then your primer filler will do the rest, u sand that down to 400grit, along with the rest of the car and then you put down a sealer coat and your base, followed by the clear coat.

    That primer that u posted should only be used for the repair areas, not the entire car.
    YOUTUBE: AR Perez
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    If lucky, the E36 will die peacefully, in its natural habitat, and be given the prestigious honor of donating its parts to an E30

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    • Cha Ching
      E30 Mastermind
      • Oct 2008
      • 1668

      #17
      Dudes, this thread is starting to show some WIN. Keep the comments coming, you guys are giving hope to us DIY-wannabe painters!

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      • trackjunkie21
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jan 2010
        • 3962

        #18
        Originally posted by Wh33lhop
        u vlad?
        I honestly hope this never ends
        Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

        Originally posted by Wh33lhop
        VANOS: sometimes you just need to go full retard.

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        • J308
          Wrencher
          • Dec 2011
          • 221

          #19
          Originally posted by Wh33lhop
          u vlad?
          Listen, I'm sorry to have to correct you but this really bugs me.

          I know I'm a r3v noob, but those who are aware of all internet traditions know that vlad doesn't have a question mark on it. It's a sign of those who are not aware of all internet traditions.

          U VLAD

          is correct. :hitler:

          It's like saying "These are the Hamptons" instead of "This is the Hamptons". It's a dead giveaway. ;)
          Originally posted by FunfGan
          My car is so racecar it makes peoples head's hurt. Literally.
          Originally posted by lambo
          This is r3v, your logic is useless. We went race-prepped, factory-built, street cars for the price of a loaf of bread.

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          • Jafxod
            E30 Fanatic
            • May 2011
            • 1301

            #20
            Originally posted by J308
            Listen, I'm sorry to have to correct you but this really bugs me.

            I know I'm a r3v noob, but those who are aware of all internet traditions know that vlad doesn't have a question mark on it. It's a sign of those who are not aware of all internet traditions.

            U VLAD

            is correct. :hitler:

            It's like saying "These are the Hamptons" instead of "This is the Hamptons". It's a dead giveaway. ;)
            Shut up and get the fuck out of my thread

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            • Jafxod
              E30 Fanatic
              • May 2011
              • 1301

              #21
              And besides the runs the primer looks good, I guess I should just hit it with a scotch brite pad and then put a base coat down?

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              • DatUtahGuy
                No R3VLimiter
                • Jan 2007
                • 3146

                #22
                Primer has a tendency to lay with a texture to it, so as long as you can sand it smooth, then yes, lay down a light coat of sealer and then basecoat. If u spray the basecoat over the primer there is a possibility of the primer absorbing it depending on the chemical reaction that happens and it could ruin your paintjob
                YOUTUBE: AR Perez
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                If lucky, the E36 will die peacefully, in its natural habitat, and be given the prestigious honor of donating its parts to an E30

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                • Voyd
                  Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 47

                  #23
                  The Duplicolor us posted is a lacquer, are you planning on spraying clear over the base coat? Don't start to mix urethane products into a lacquer job, just follow the tech from Duplicolor (You might want to rethink the paint selection, this is just my IMO).

                  After you layer the lacquer down yoiu will need to color sand and buff. So don't skimp on the final stage coats as they will be knocked down during color sanding.

                  Did your thin that duplicolor primer by chance? If so that could be your problem. Aslo did you mix it well as the solids tend to fall t the bottom of the can so a GOOD mixing is important. What PSI at the tip are you spraying at?
                  Last edited by Voyd; 01-10-2012, 12:13 PM.
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                  • KI4UJO
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 640

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Voyd
                    The Duplicolor us posted is a lacquer, are you planning on spraying clear over the base coat? Don't start to mix urethane products into a lacquer job, just follow the tech from Duplicolor (You might want to rethink the paint selection, this is just my IMO).

                    After you layer the lacquer down yoiu will need to color sand and buff. So don't skimp on the final stage coats as they will be knocked down during color sanding.

                    Did your thin that duplicolor primer by chance? If so that could be your problem. Aslo did you mix it well as the solids tend to fall t the bottom of the can so a GOOD mixing is important. What PSI at the tip are you spraying at?
                    More information we need to know. Also, if you are shooting lacquer, do what the quoted poster said. I shot my e30 in lacquer, and am very happy with it. However, when color sanding and buffing, do not use too much pressure or hold the buffer in the same spot, or you will do what I did, and burn through. I have to reclear my trunk lid, so just a word of advice.
                    IMG_0145 by Jonathan Martin, on Flickr

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                    • DatUtahGuy
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3146

                      #25
                      If you are new to this(mixing, spraying, etc) I strongly suggest getting all your products from the same brand, get your primer/sealer/base/clear in a bundle, don't try to mix and match because lets be honest, you probably don't know what the hell you are doing.

                      So stick to Omni or PPG or even Spies but try to be consistent, these products have been manufactured to work with its own brand and you know you wont be getting unforeseen problems for mixing two brands that don't play nice with each other.
                      YOUTUBE: AR Perez
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                      If lucky, the E36 will die peacefully, in its natural habitat, and be given the prestigious honor of donating its parts to an E30

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                      • /\/\ III
                        Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 80

                        #26
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by Jafxod
                        I was trying to throw a vlad joke in somewhere but it wasnt working haha.

                        u vlad?

                        Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                        u vlad?
                        "my vlad" would of sound better.

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                        • KI4UJO
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 640

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Schwarz3
                          If you are new to this(mixing, spraying, etc) I strongly suggest getting all your products from the same brand, get your primer/sealer/base/clear in a bundle, don't try to mix and match because lets be honest, you probably don't know what the hell you are doing.

                          So stick to Omni or PPG or even Spies but try to be consistent, these products have been manufactured to work with its own brand and you know you wont be getting unforeseen problems for mixing two brands that don't play nice with each other.
                          Specifically in the same paint system. For example, PPG makes Lacquer, Enamel, Urethane, Waterborne, and probably some other stuff that I can't think of.
                          IMG_0145 by Jonathan Martin, on Flickr

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                          • 1fastETA
                            Wrencher
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 264

                            #28
                            Okay!! I gonna give you some help.
                            Any repairs with bondo putty or whatever must be finished with 180 grit follwed by a featheredge with 320 grit for primer
                            To shoot primer u must have sanded up to 320grit. I recommend a 2k primer at least three coats
                            To sand primer 400 grit blocked. followed by a scuff pad grey
                            Depending on color you are using decide wether to shoot sealer or not. Transparency issues etc.
                            Apply base coat at least three coats
                            Apply clear coat at least two coats

                            Yes follow the same brand of products!
                            I hope this helps

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                            • DatUtahGuy
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3146

                              #29
                              Update? Pics?
                              YOUTUBE: AR Perez
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                              If lucky, the E36 will die peacefully, in its natural habitat, and be given the prestigious honor of donating its parts to an E30

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