vert fenders, which is most ghetto

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  • stamar
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    that is an awesome picture. I appreciate that picture ill go over it tommorow as to why. Because Im planning on doing just that, getting a red coupe or sedan ( they are the same) fender.


    hold on for a second, they did actually do something to that fender that is not like mine. however in daylight i will show you.

    ( preview, ok look at my picture look at theirs. They stretched the fender to the holes to fasten it. Mine, just left it in the air. ok so if i liked how that looked I could do that but i dont. the way that picture is, you can see it. Just dont fasten the holes its invisible)



    that car is even the same color which is cool. But it looks like the door was damaged on that picture too.



    Sure my car was in a passenger side accident also and peiced together, hood and fender. I obviously wasnt there to see what it looked like before. headlight is cracked too.

    Overall though that car must have been in a serious wreck or a more straight sideways wreck.


    Well would you literally take that red fender off, and put on a green convertible fender?

    i dont know what her story was but she did the smartest thing, according to my best thought, get a regular fender of the correct color. not a vert fender in another color , or leaving the body damage.

    Im sure anyone would. Then if you find a red vert fender someday switch it again. Id rather ride around in a single color car while waiting for lightening to strike that a dual color car.


    If you wanted to make that one perfect you could cut the bottom off a vert fender and weld it on there. Cover it with undercoating.


    TD325ic understands all the variables involved, and owns a convertible. I wouldnt actually even point this out but many people just cant figure this situation out lol. Its possible that 325ic has looked for vert fenders.

    Do you want to know something really funky? The po of this red convertible was a woman... so now Im triple checking. i mean I can tell already its not the same car but im triple checking it.
    No its funkier than that, i bought this car from someone with 2 zinno e30s could have switched the fender again...
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  • td325ic
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    Originally posted by McGyver
    that fitment is shit, its short by at least half an inch. I feel like any car person would notice it right away.

    does the molding at the top of the rocker even line up with the cabrio molding?
    That's the whole point that Stamar is missing. Not only is the coupe fender too short but there's no provisions on the coupe fender to install the convertible rocker panel molding. The convertible fenders are indented where the molding fits, the coupe fenders are not.

    Stamar, everyone has known for years and years that non-vert fender can be physically bolted onto a vert. That's nothing new. You haven't discovered anything or proved anyone wrong. But just because something can be bolted on doesn't mean it "fits" in most people's sense of the word.

    If you don't believe me then look up the member "UmmYeahOk" on bimmerforums. She's been on bimmerforums since 06. Her vert was in a major accident early on in it's life, it was then pieced back together and they used coupe fenders on her vert.

    Does this look right to you?

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    Most people wouldn't call that good fitment. That's why people have told you it wouldn't fit, because it looks half-assed.

    But with all that said, you are right in the sense that a nicely painted non-vert fender would look better than a damaged vert fender. So run the non-vert fender temporarily until you can find a good condition convertible fender that fits like it should.

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  • stamar
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    ya the top line is the same. that is where the moulding goes, same on both. same moulding peice.

    underneath the molding is the bump part its covered with undercoating. could be smaller or larger i cant see it, need a vert fender with the undercoating scraped off.

    ya its a half inch off

    the hole on my car is bent in actually but the po and i never bent the fender like that its still straight on the tab part.

    ya well id rather look for a correctly painted fender and throw this one away.

    youd rather have a non matched fender then that the bottom lined up correctly? Am I right in saying that?

    Different strokes I guess I doubt the majority would agree.

    ya I never noticed it for 9 months. granted no one told me that it was possible a non vert fender was on my car. Or what differences there were in them, where to look.

    Actually look at any car picture, like the one above. Can you see the bottom fender screws?

    Its invisible until you are literally bending over.

    99.99 percent of the time you see a car, you are in your car or you are in a parking lot walking.
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  • McGyver
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    that fitment is shit, its short by at least half an inch. I feel like any car person would notice it right away.

    does the molding at the top of the rocker even line up with the cabrio molding?

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  • MAXELHOFF
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    Originally posted by cabriolet
    even the paint brush guy's car looks better
    Word!
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  • stamar
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    lol well the person who would care macgyver

    Is someone who has a vert with fender damage.

    Do you think they would care what the answer is?

    You can put yourself in their shoes though.

    Im actually trying not to have any point, just soliciting opinions.

    I had heard of people actually welding the part on from the vert fender but to me that seems overboard, its not even visible. If you put the undercoating on to match, you wouldnt be able to see a thing even at tire level ( in my opinion)


    here you go.

    Now on the other side, I cant tell you whether that line is there or not because its covered with undercoating. I believe it is. so u see the hole.

    Anyhow you cat see a thing unless you bend over.

    but because its asthetics, that could bug you more than the whole color being off. I wont speak for anyone. If it does say so.

    but there you go that should give you an educated opinion.

    It is different its like 1/2 to 3/4 inch off.

    so here you go, you have fender damage. Do you look for one in your color that is off like this, or do you look for one in another color that is not?

    it is honestly harder to find a vert fender even in the wrong color than a non vert fender in the right color but its just hypothetical.
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  • McGyver
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    Originally posted by stamar
    but which would you rather have? I mean if you cant find a vert fender in your color, you would have one in a off color?

    It seems some people would. I wouldnt
    who cares?

    Originally posted by stamar
    I actually have them both so I can do that.

    The difference though is sort of pronounced because the vert fender still has that black stuff on but the non vert fender does not.
    ...so go do it while you still have light. and dont use a cell phone for the pictures.

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  • stamar
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    Originally posted by McGyver
    well yeah...

    to prove your point, maybe take a picture of the vert fender where it hits the rocker and the same on the other side of the coupe/sedan fender.

    I actually have them both so I can do that.

    The difference though is sort of pronounced because the vert fender still has that black stuff on but the non vert fender does not.

    I will have it ready tommorow.

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  • stamar
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    but which would you rather have? I mean if you cant find a vert fender in your color, you would have one in a off color?

    It seems some people would. I wouldnt

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  • McGyver
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    Originally posted by stamar
    What do you want a picture of. What is different about a vert fender and a non vert fender. Well you cant even see it from that picture. I will have to actually go to tire level and take a picture for you.
    well yeah...

    to prove your point, maybe take a picture of the vert fender where it hits the rocker and the same on the other side of the coupe/sedan fender.

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  • Cabriolet
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    I think enough people answered you here...
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    my answer: do it right or go home. none of the answer you gave are correct.

    even the paint brush guy's car looks better

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  • stamar
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    ok well heres my vert....



    mismatched fender.

    What do you want a picture of. What is different about a vert fender and a non vert fender. Well you cant even see it from that picture. I will have to actually go to tire level and take a picture for you.

    basically there is no difference you can really see in my opinion.... the vert has a larger rocker panel, thats where the extra reinforcement goes. so the vert fender has connections on the bootom apx 3/4 inch lower. The two holes that hold the bolts. Thats it...... Is that a good enough description or do you need a picture be honest.

    Is that what you need, a picture of the difference?

    Heres my point, people seem to think non vert fenders dont fit on verts, even people who own verts.

    But obviously they do lol. Most people not actually owning each dont know what the difference is ( like you like me until I took my miscolored fender off)

    my question is, which looks most ghetto to you which looks least?

    In my opinion there is a widely held ignorant belief that the two fenders are not compatible when they largely are. Whats most important in my opinion is the color match.

    you can see people shipping vert fenders in bronzit from germany lol when they just dont know the score. Theres no way to get this info but word of mouth really. When I bought my car it came with a mismatched fender adn I asked everyone would a sedan fender fit.... several people said no. Definitely nobody said well it fits except the bottom two holes lol. Cause the truth is almost no one really knew.....

    If you disagree let me know thats fine.
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  • stamar
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    In my opinion...

    Not the opinion of the people who took the poll

    a crunched vert fender looks the most ghetto. Just my asthetics. I understand some people like it better than a miscolored one I dont.

    Ok I can be in the minority on that.

    But does anyone not think that a non vert correct color fender would look the best. They would not prefer that on their car?

    ANYONE? Please say, this is my opinion if you have that opinion.

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  • McGyver
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    are you just answering yourself?

    and how about a picture or two of what you are talking about?

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  • stamar
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    please rank from most ghetto to least ghetto.

    Id also like to know which do you think looks best.

    I mean obviously a correct color non vert fender looks best.

    But if someone doesnt think that, speak up. Is there anyone, anyone

    who would rather have

    a crunched or miscolored vert fender on their vert. For years waiting for a paint job.


    OVER

    a correct factory colored non vert fender.

    ANYONE? SPEAK PLEASE!

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