E30 Rivet-on Overfenders

[CrisMac]

$4-500 + what, 150-200 in shipping? I'm down... depending on how wide we're talking here.

I would produce them in +30mm, +50mm, and +70mm. Although any width can be had, but these seem to be most common.

If I was in the market for wide body fenders other than e30 M3 style. I would pay around that price ($500+shipping) if not more...depending on quality of the product and fitment of course...and you are getting FOUR fenders not just two like most places...

Just skimming the internet I see some fenders going any where from 300-500 for just a PAIR Depending on Width of fender/company/brand etc... (for 240sx s13-s14) , and that doesn't include shipping. (some websites may include free shipping)

I would like to keep the price within the affordable e30 community, without trying to compete with the DTM E30 M3 Kits....Now that being said, I would also like to make a sedan version for those with sedans....like myself...

[jalopi]

I've got a sedan too - most kits i've seen are like "fuck it" and slap the fender over our rear doors

I'd be down for an extra 2.5" or so of tire fitment.

[CrisMac]

I've got a sedan too - most kits i've seen are like "fuck it" and slap the fender over our rear doors

I'd be down for an extra 2.5" or so of tire fitment.

I know what you mean, hoping to make it a 2 piece rear panel... so the door actually still functions.
....this should be quite the challenge

[IronFreak]

Scroll to bottom of page

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=288162&page=6

[jalopi]

DTM managed to pull it off with their 'super mega' widebody kit, but I'm not willing to pay 4-5k for a body kit... that's just not happening.

Also, was that link for what your finished product would be like or something?

[CrisMac]

DTM managed to pull it off with their 'super mega' widebody kit, but I'm not willing to pay 4-5k for a body kit... that's just not happening.

Also, was that link for what your finished product would be like or something?

The link is a picture of the m3 kit if I'm not mistaken....(?) I like the m3 kit but I don't want to make replicas of the m3, or else why not just buy the DTM kit... ya know?

I want to try to keep the oem lines of the 3 series, just make the fenders wider.... if that makes any sense at all....

[IronFreak]

Those items are Pesch, and he's not making a m3 look alike just using the fenders to gather a wider stance. I think it is about as good as you can possible do for holding stock body lines, there's no way you can call that ratical gruppe5 look stock. Not to mention that the Pesch in that link was under a $1000 shipped.....from over seas.

you can't get a 275 to fit inside a stock front fender and have full turning ability no matter how wide you make it, just won't happen.....ask me how I know. So ask yourself whats the purpose of a wider fender? It can be done but not without serious modification and not many people are will to go through that kind of work (like you, me or unloadedak).

[AndrewBird]

Wider fenders means you can space the wheel out further giving you more clearance on the inside. So saying you can't fit a 275 in there is false. Yeah, you can't fit a 275 with the stock offset, but with a lower or even negative offset and a wide fender, it is very possible. That is the point of going wider.

[CrisMac]

Those items are Pesch, and he's not making a m3 look alike just using the fenders to gather a wider stance. I think it is about as good as you can possible do for holding stock body lines, there's no way you can call that ratical gruppe5 look stock. Not to mention that the Pesch in that link was under a $1000 shipped.....from over seas.

you can't get a 275 to fit inside a stock front fender and have full turning ability no matter how wide you make it, just won't happen.....ask me how I know. So ask yourself whats the purpose of a wider fender? It can be done but not without serious modification and not many people are will to go through that kind of work (like you, me or unloadedak).

Ill have to read the thread about the quality of it...I looks good to me. just looks M3ish to me, not a bad thing just my take on them.

I would also like to differ on not fitting 275 up front with wider fenders, Im sure with the correct offset you can run 10.5 up front, unless when turning the tires hit the suspension or something, then its a matter of spacers..... I have 8.5 up front with a 5mm spacer and I'm still inside the fender with stock camber (I have stretched tires but my lip is still inside the fender)...get e46 control arms and 5mm spacers to push the track out further (Under $70)....should be ok then..and add quite a bit more angle..

[IronFreak]

if your 4-lug MAYBE, BUT 5-LUG your 12mm out, I tried a 9.5" et35 and had to run a 10mm spacer to not rub my coilovers, (do the math, even at 12mm out because of 5-lug I still had to run 10mm spacer to clear suspension). I couldn't turn lock to lock without hitting the fenders. Just look at what Unloaded had to do to get 275's to stay inside the fenders, he's reworking the inner fender well.

And to nitro I disagree, the opening on the stock fender is not big enough, read above^^ your kicking the wheel out which is making the radius from the axis point longer, your going to run into your fender. I have mounted the exact same apex wheels unloadedak has on my stock front setup....it won't work without serious modification to the fenders and inner fender well.

I tried finding the pictures I took but no luck.

So we're clear, not trying to crap on your thread, just saying I'm literally dealing with the same issue.

[CrisMac]

Wider fenders means you can space the wheel out further giving you more clearance on the inside. So saying you can't fit a 275 in there is false. Yeah, you can't fit a 275 with the stock offset, but with a lower or even negative offset and a wide fender, it is very possible. That is the point of going wider.

^This,

Thats the point of going wider, with simple modifications and correct math you can fit anything, ( Iv seen 18 x 11.5 et-20 and 18 x 13.5 et-5 on an S2K....so anything is possible)


My purpose would be wider fenders for lower offset wheels + e46 control arms, and spacers = tons more angle and wider track...for a fraction of the cost from Wisefab or SLR

just my .02

[IronFreak]

For the record I (a.) don't know everything rather just like sharing what I have experienced and (b.) think DTM fiberworks parts are crap....I had a set of flares and sold them because the quility was so poor.

[IronFreak]

I understand the wider fender, I guess I didn;t clarify when I posted that link that outside doing the typical m3 flare you're not going to keep that "stock" look. I did find a place in UK that sells what they call EVO m3 kits. aparently it's even wider then thestock m3 setup by several MM.

http://www.acm-ab.se/

[IronFreak]

I'd like to help this cause, just sharing the information I've gathered, not trying to downplay it by any means.

[CrisMac]

I'd like to help this cause, just sharing the information I've gathered, not trying to downplay it by any means.

I understand were your coming from, and Im glad you posted about it from your experience. I was just simply clarifying as well as nitro.. I think we came off kinda wrong on your comment..

thanks man, I hope I can have something put together within a few months. Ill be leaving for a month this week, won't be back until febuary to actually start on the project...but I will have tax money when I return!

I appreciate everyones support on this. I hope positive as well as negative criticism comes into this project. I want this product to be a product OF and FOR the e30 community, so we can actually have a few options for competitive prices.

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