UUC * First ever DOT-compliant LED headlight system - installed.

[straight6pwr]

is it really the first ever DOT-compliant LED headlight system?

[Rob@UUC]

is it really the first ever DOT-compliant LED headlight system?

First ever aftermarket DOT-compliant LED headlight system that I am aware of.

[straight6pwr]

First ever aftermarket DOT-compliant LED headlight system that I am aware of.

Its not. You might want to do some research before falsely advertising a product. 'That I am aware of' is a terrible cop-out.

[Rob@UUC]

Its not. You might want to do some research before falsely advertising a product. 'That I am aware of' is a terrible cop-out.

First ever DOT-compliant LED headlight system - installed in an E30 is how this thread was originally begun.

Not entirely sure being rude about that was necessary. If you've got something constructive to discuss, join the conversation. If you want to throw rocks, please, not interested.

[E30Nova]

Have I played with the TSX and other OEM conversions? No. Honda headlights use a light temperature (color) that is considered appropriate for "enthusiast" driving. The color temperature is somewhere around the 6000°K point, too close to the blue-purple which means lower contrast perception by the human eye. What do sharpshooters wear... purple glasses or yellow?

I dunno where you got yours, but all the OEM HID's I've seen are 4300k. o_O

[JoeyBones]

Its not. You might want to do some research before falsely advertising a product. 'That I am aware of' is a terrible cop-out.

hey man, cool...which product were you referring to?

[straight6pwr]

Not entirely sure being rude about that was necessary. If you've got something constructive to discuss, join the conversation. If you want to throw rocks, please, not interested.

You'll have to excuse me, but misrepresentation of products is a terrible plague that our money-driven economy suffers from, and it annoys me to high hell every time a product is different/falsely advertised.

if no one critiques what you are doing, your product wont be as good. 'throwing rocks' IS discussion. i haven't bashed you are your product, i've simply asked questions and tried to clear things up. if you aren't falsely advertising, you should have no reason to get worried.

[Adrian_Visser]

You'll have to excuse me, but misrepresentation of products is a terrible plague that our money-driven economy suffers from, and it annoys me to high hell every time a product is different/falsely advertised.

if no one critiques what you are doing, your product wont be as good. 'throwing rocks' IS discussion. i haven't bashed you are your product, i've simply asked questions and tried to clear things up. if you aren't falsely advertising, you should have no reason to get worried.

So what is your point exactly? What about these being the first LED headlights for the e30 is not true?

[briansjacobs]

You'll have to excuse me, but misrepresentation of products is a terrible plague that our money-driven economy suffers from, and it annoys me to high hell every time a product is different/falsely advertised.

if no one critiques what you are doing, your product wont be as good. 'throwing rocks' IS discussion. i haven't bashed you are your product, i've simply asked questions and tried to clear things up. if you aren't falsely advertising, you should have no reason to get worried.

[DaveSmed]

First ever aftermarket DOT-compliant LED headlight system that I am aware of.

Its not. You might want to do some research before falsely advertising a product. 'That I am aware of' is a terrible cop-out.

You'll have to excuse me, but misrepresentation of products is a terrible plague that our money-driven economy suffers from, and it annoys me to high hell every time a product is different/falsely advertised.

if no one critiques what you are doing, your product wont be as good. 'throwing rocks' IS discussion. i haven't bashed you are your product, i've simply asked questions and tried to clear things up. if you aren't falsely advertising, you should have no reason to get worried.

I could follow your argument right up until the second paragraph in the last quoted post. For the first bits, I could assume you were somehow involved with whoever had the first DOT compliant retrofit LED headlamp system and were simply passionate about the record being set straight, thus explaining the somewhat terse wording.

However, how the hell is is product "less good" if it wasn't first with DOT approval? How is UUC supposed to improve on that? I'm all for factual accuracy, and if something like incorrect lumen ratings were posted, you bet I would be right there raising a shitstorm with everyone else, but your just being an ass for the sake of being an ass.

[JoeyBones]

You'll have to excuse me, but misrepresentation of products is a terrible plague that our money-driven economy suffers from, and it annoys me to high hell every time a product is different/falsely advertised.

if no one critiques what you are doing, your product wont be as good. 'throwing rocks' IS discussion. i haven't bashed you are your product, i've simply asked questions and tried to clear things up. if you aren't falsely advertising, you should have no reason to get worried.

seriously...who was the first? you are pretty firm on this, but no links or anything...If you're trying to help...then help...if you're pissed be pissed by yourself as it does nothing to further anyone's knowledge or understanding. We are all here to help, learn, and enjoy sharing our experiences with others with the same interest. You're just casting a negative shadow on the entire forum.

also, this is CERTAINLY not misrepresentation or false advertisement as related to this vehicle specific message board.

[Eric]

Most of the newer MRAP's and the new MATV (hummer replacement) out here in afghanistan have funky looking LED headlights.

HOLY SHIT they are bright! I can see the road just fine when I'm behind one of these brutes they are so bright!

[tonywonder]

I think its great that you are working on this lighting setup but I also think they are very ugly and dont really fit with the design of the car.

Is there any reason they cant be a little larger? any way to make a glass lens like the OE lens that allow the lights to function the way they are meant to but also helps disguise the bare look of the setup? i think this would help its fit the overall design of the car more, if possible.

You argue that these lights arent for looks only for function but at that rate you are really just narrowing your target audience. The appearance actually does matter regardless of whether or not you think so. I think that you could also make these aesthetically pleasing while still maintaining function.

I also think that at that price the parts like the lens should be replaceable, without having to buy an entirely new unit.

[briansjacobs]

I am just going to take a guess here as I am not an engineer but, with the amount of people already being squemish about price I can not imagine how much more it would cost to further engineer the product to 1 have a replacable lens and 2 design a lens that will "hide" the LEDS but also be functional enough to give them brightness desired.

Rob, if you can do all that and make them for less than a set of Euro Smileys were all in (tongue in cheek)

[Schnitzer318is]

Rob, if you can do all that and make them for less than a set of Euro Smileys were all in (tongue in cheek)

LOL I wish...

But seriously... Rob, awesome product. I am not a huge fan of the looks, but the function looks to be incredible. Can't wait to see vids.

To those complaining about looks... he already stated form over function, no need to keep beating that horse. Yes, he is limiting his audience... but I think the price did that more than the looks. Let it go...