City lights wiring options.

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  • herbivor
    E30 Fanatic
    • Apr 2009
    • 1420

    #1

    City lights wiring options.

    I'm converting from sealed beams to Euro smileys and I have a Euro car with no side marker lights to splice my city lights into. My parking light position one was my low beams on my sealed beams and now they don't light up with the smileys until I pull the knob out fully. So here are my questions that I couldn't get a clear answer on when I searched:
    1. If I want to run my city lights as DRLs, what do I splice into?
    2. If I want to run my city lights as parking lights, what do I splice into without having side marker lights?
    3. Can I splice into my fog light wires so that they are on only when the fog lights are on, or is that kinda gay?
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  • IRON-E
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Dec 2007
    • 16548

    #2
    Just trace your side markers and tap into that. Easiest thing to do.
    @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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    • herbivor
      E30 Fanatic
      • Apr 2009
      • 1420

      #3
      Originally posted by IRON-E
      Just trace your side markers and tap into that. Easiest thing to do.
      See question #2.
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      • IRON-E
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Dec 2007
        • 16548

        #4
        The wiring is always there, I did read #2 but again, you just have to trace it. Every e30 has it or did you cut it completely off?
        @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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        • herbivor
          E30 Fanatic
          • Apr 2009
          • 1420

          #5
          Originally posted by IRON-E
          The wiring is always there, I did read #2 but again, you just have to trace it. Every e30 has it or did you cut it completely off?
          It's not there. I didn't cut it off. Previous owner who did the engine swap probably removed them because there is a lot of electrical tape on the wires that are left. I got the main lights figured out just not the city light.
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          • bernzpeed
            No R3VLimiter
            • Feb 2009
            • 3917

            #6
            a photo would help a lot. bec. Iron-E is right, it is already there. Everything is pre-wired. You just have to tap into the side marker lights or cut off the plug and use that wire directly.

            I got some male female plugs from radioshack so i would have a clean install on mine. Turned out pretty easy and I put white LEDs on my city lights.
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            • DaveSmed
              E30 Fanatic
              • Apr 2007
              • 1406

              #7
              +1 on a good pic of the current headlight wiring
              -Dave
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              • M-technik-3
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Oct 2003
                • 18946

                #8
                The only thing that is lacking is rear fogs and proper use of the city lights for their intended purpose.

                To mark the outer edge of the car in the front and rear on a dimly light street when the car is street parked.

                They are not meant to act like running lights except in position of marker lights on. But that's secondary.

                In Germany, the StVZO (Road Traffic Licensing Regulations) calls for a different function also known as parking lamps: With the vehicle's ignition switched off, the operator may activate a low-intensity light at the front (white or amber) and rear (red) on either the left or the right side of the car. This function is used when parking in narrow unlit streets to provide parked-vehicle conspicuity to approaching drivers.[23] This function, which is optional under ECE and US regulations, is served passively and without power consumption in North America by the mandatory side marker retroreflectors.
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                • herbivor
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1420

                  #9
                  All right, so I found the side marker wires. they were wrapped up and concealed in the electrical tape. with the other wires. My car is a Euro and I think maybe when it was imported, someone switched to the sealed beams and just took the side marker wires and taped them up. Once I found them, it was pretty easy. Below are some pics of the wiring before and after.



                  On the last one ignore that one ugly wire splice. I ran out of connectors but you get the idea.
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                  • IRON-E
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 16548

                    #10
                    You did homeWork Son! :up:
                    @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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                    • DaveSmed
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1406

                      #11
                      Ah, a metal bumper euro.

                      Second pic down, the gray wire still connected to what looks like a US sealed beam connector.... that would be your factory city light/parking light wire.
                      -Dave
                      2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

                      Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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                      • Bigboy740il
                        Noobie
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Check out this site.
                        Basically when you get Smilies they just bolt up without an issue EXCEPT for wiring. From sealed beams: The sealed beams have a 3 prong connector 2 of the wires are ground and one is power. While the euro connector is 1 power and 1 ground, all you need to do is take the extra


                        There is one step you're missing. You have to connect the High beam and low beam relays. If you don't, when you activate the high beam lights your low beams will go off. See site for pics.

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                        • iansane
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1342

                          #13
                          Well, maybe two steps missing. Ditch those cheap butt connectors for a good solder joint or a heat-shrink-sealed type butt connector. Whichever tickles your fancy.
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