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  • accident
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2008
    • 7303

    #1

    Non-factory alarm double locking



    I stumbled across this while looking at some other parts. Assuming what he's saying is correct, couldnt I just use the 12v output that is turned on when armed (to disable ignition) to hit the unlock wire at the same time? Or make it hit both wires at once? Also, assuming he is correct, could i use my accesory 12v for the extra button on my remote to do the same thing? What tells the car to un-double lock? Luke?

    Originally posted by ROLLingKING
    i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    Moral of this story?

    If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.
  • StereoInstaller1
    GAS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22679

    #2
    OK, first off let me say that I am adamantly against "double locking" an E30 electronically.

    Electronics are far too crappy these days to trust being able to get into your car with that kind of locking setup. Chinese relays? No thanks!

    When you lock your drivers door, then continue to rotate the lock to the horizontal position, that would be 'double locking".

    BTW, it does nothing to the starter...

    When DL is on, you cannot open the door from inside so if you did have a failure, what would you do?

    Closing SOON!
    "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

    Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

    Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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    • StereoInstaller1
      GAS
      • Jul 2004
      • 22679

      #3
      Just checked Kims '89 325i

      No double lock.

      Also checked the '92 MTech2 vert...does double lock.

      I will go learn more and report back here in the next 4 years or so...

      Closing SOON!
      "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

      Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

      Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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      • accident
        R3V OG
        • Sep 2008
        • 7303

        #4
        fyi if the car is double locked you can open it from the passenger side using the key. key goes into door lock, you jiggle it while turning the key towards unlock and the latch releases. it may take a few tries to get it to open.

        Originally posted by ROLLingKING
        i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
        Originally posted by slammin.e28
        Moral of this story?

        If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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        • StereoInstaller1
          GAS
          • Jul 2004
          • 22679

          #5
          You aren't supposed to be able to!

          Closing SOON!
          "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

          Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

          Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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          • accident
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2008
            • 7303

            #6
            the door doesnt actually unlock, the latch just gets released.

            Originally posted by ROLLingKING
            i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
            Originally posted by slammin.e28
            Moral of this story?

            If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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            • StereoInstaller1
              GAS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22679

              #7
              inner or outer?

              Closing SOON!
              "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

              Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

              Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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              • accident
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2008
                • 7303

                #8
                outer. it's a fallback BMW put there in case your locks go crazy or the battery dies when the car is double locked

                Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                Originally posted by slammin.e28
                Moral of this story?

                If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                • StereoInstaller1
                  GAS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 22679

                  #9
                  OK, yeah. E34s have the same thing.

                  no mechanical unlock on the drivers side, only electrical.

                  Closing SOON!
                  "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                  Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                  Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                  • NC325iC
                    R3V OG
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 6565

                    #10
                    understeer is more focused on the e36. e30s lock all locks at the same time
                    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                    Originally posted by TimKninja
                    Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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                    • accident
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 7303

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NC325iC
                      understeer is more focused on the e36. e30s lock all locks at the same time
                      wat

                      Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                      i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                      Originally posted by slammin.e28
                      Moral of this story?

                      If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                      • bimmer95
                        Noobie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 30

                        #12
                        My double lock write up is for E36 models, not E30s.

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                        • StereoInstaller1
                          GAS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 22679

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bimmer95
                          My double lock write up is for E36 models, not E30s.
                          Yeah, I tried every combo I could think of after reading the manual. Seems the "unlock inhibit" might do it if you applied ground to it.

                          Next time I have a ton of time and an E30 that has double lock (neither of mine do) I will try it.

                          If you look at 5126-0 (of the ETM) it shows a brown/red at the central lock module getting a ground (or so it seems) to engage the double lock mode, but I do not see how that could control the actuator...but something has to run that passenger door, right?

                          BTW, since you are an E36 guy, have you seen the E36 "Trunk Pop" write up? There is another thing I would love to do to my E30 but can't seem to figure out.

                          Closing SOON!
                          "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                          Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                          Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                          • quickervicar
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1197

                            #14
                            Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                            OK, yeah. E34s have the same thing.

                            no mechanical unlock on the drivers side, only electrical.
                            Wait! Is that why the rod from the lock cylinder just dangles in my E34 driver's door? (trying to fix all the actuators)

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                            • StereoInstaller1
                              GAS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 22679

                              #15
                              I can't imagine anything just dangling.

                              Maybe goes to the switch?

                              Closing SOON!
                              "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                              Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                              Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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