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  • StereoInstaller1
    GAS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22679

    #1

    Radio Wiring and Amp Bypass

    First, let me say this is NOT applicable to all E30s. Generally, Late Model (88+) will have this wiring on premium sound cars. IF you have a fader in the dash, this MAY work: you need to unwrap about 8" of fader harness to see if you have 4 pairs of speaker wires, as some cars have only 6 wires, not 4 pairs (8 total) so if this chart does not apply PERFECTLY to your car, don't use it.

    Quick disclaimer: this is not idiot proof. You mess it up, don't whine at me, I do not care.

    If this saves you countless hours of hassle or you are just feeling generous, feel free to paypal me a tip. Add "@gmail.com" to Stereoinstaller1 and I promise to only use the money for projects on my car.


    OK, here is the info.

    Obviously, what you do here is simple: connect the "deck" wire to the "dash" wire, then back at the trunk, connect that "dash" wire to the "speaker" wire.

    This is not rocket surgery, boys. Get it done.



    Aftermarket-----------Dash Wires-----------Speaker Wires

    RF+ Grey--------------Blue/Red-------------Grey/White
    RF- Grey/Black--------Brown/Orange--------Grey/Brown

    LF+ White------------Yellow/Red------------Grey/Red
    LF- White/Black-------Brown/Orange--------Grey/Violet

    RR+ Violet------------Blue/Black------------Black/White
    RR- Violet/Black-------Brown/Orange--------Black/Brown

    LR+ Green------------Yellow/Black----------Black/Red
    LR- Green/Black-------Brown/Orange--------Black/Violet


    (+12V Unswitched) Yellow----Red/Green (Changes to Yellow at C302)

    (+12V ACC) Red-------------Violet/White (Changes to Voilet/Grey at C302)

    (Ground) Black---------------Brown (may also be Brown/Black)

    (ILL) Orange-----------------Grey/Red (Changes to White at C302)

    (P ANT) Blue-----------------White (this is one of 2 white wires)

    (AMP REM) Blue/White--------White (this is the one in the same harness as the speakers)

    Luke
    Last edited by StereoInstaller1; 12-08-2010, 05:58 PM.

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  • hurttech
    Wrencher
    • Apr 2010
    • 237

    #2
    Are you a proponent of using the stock wiring instead of running new cable?

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    • StereoInstaller1
      GAS
      • Jul 2004
      • 22679

      #3
      Originally posted by hurttech
      Are you a proponent of using the stock wiring instead of running new cable?
      Absolutely, yes. Thanks for bringing this up.

      My reasoning is simple: no one who uses a diagram like this even knows who Bruce Brisson or Noel Lee are, much less Ray Kimber (who sells wire that ISN'T snake oil) so the quality of the wire you are gonna get at Monoprice or Home Depot (or get 1000X screwed on at your local car stereo whore shop) is WAY worse than what is already in your car: twisted pair, high copper content, generally excellent condition, neatly ran, no noise, etc...the stock BMW wires kick that shit out of 99.999% of the professionals out there, much less the neophyte installer.

      Another advantage is that should you decide to add am amplifier to your system, you can simply connect in the trunk. Run your RCAs and all else is done!

      Guys, again: please use the stock wire wherever possible.

      Luke

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      Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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      • bmwstephen
        R3VLimited
        • May 2009
        • 2463

        #4
        Luke, am I reading this correctly? there appears to be 2 black browns but one being positive and the other being negative?

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        • AbsorbantNut
          Non faccio funzionare questa merda
          • Jun 2010
          • 2491

          #5
          I wish this was here a few months ago;) Figured it out how to do it regardlessly with some reasearch & help from you.

          Thanks again Luke!


          '73 2002 m20 turbo [sold] '87 rat rod 325is [couch modded] '91 vert [daily] '88 325is [spec build v1] '84 325 [spec build v2] '99 323i vert [sold]

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          • StereoInstaller1
            GAS
            • Jul 2004
            • 22679

            #6
            Originally posted by bmwstephen
            Luke, am I reading this correctly? there appears to be 2 black browns but one being positive and the other being negative?
            Holy crap, great catch! THE ETM IS WRONG ON THE '87!

            Fixed, and thanks!

            LF

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            Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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            • IRON-E
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Dec 2007
              • 16548

              #7
              Very nice Luke, I did this when I installed my set up 4 years ago, makes the e30 wiring world so much easier.....

              I got the diagram from the hanes manual. :D
              @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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              • StereoInstaller1
                GAS
                • Jul 2004
                • 22679

                #8
                See, that's the thing...I don't use manuals, I just do it. I test every connection, quick and easy. People watch me do it and they always freak out, like "how the hell do you do that?" when it is just so damn simple to me...but there are LOTS of things I can't do, so kinda hard for me to criticize.

                Closing SOON!
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                Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                • accident
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 7303

                  #9
                  for what it's worth, every E30 i've wired the two white wires were connected to each other and went out to a single white wire for the stock deck. apply 12v to each until your antenna moves would be my guess :)

                  Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                  i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                  Originally posted by slammin.e28
                  Moral of this story?

                  If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                  • StereoInstaller1
                    GAS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 22679

                    #10
                    Or, just look at the antenna cable, the wire for the antenna is wrapped with it

                    Closing SOON!
                    "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                    Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                    Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                    • accident
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 7303

                      #11
                      never noticed that before. will look out for this next time i wire an E30. thanks for the tits writeup luke :)

                      Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                      i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                      Originally posted by slammin.e28
                      Moral of this story?

                      If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                      • bmwstephen
                        R3VLimited
                        • May 2009
                        • 2463

                        #12


                        helping Luke out a bit for helping me diagnosing my issues. Luke, can you take a look at my thread if you have time? I ran into something new with my wiring.

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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #13
                          nice. I wish this was around 8 years ago - I hacked into my stock stereo wiring to add an aftermarket stereo. But I've got a virgin premium sound harness in the parts car I intend on putting in my car with a new deck. Haven't had a stereo since june. :p
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                          • bmwstephen
                            R3VLimited
                            • May 2009
                            • 2463

                            #14
                            Luke my car isn't using a hersche motor antenna. I'm using the z3/318ti stationary antenna where the WHITE wire isn't hooked up to it by design. Do I still need to utilize both white wires from the dash to my aftermarket harness?

                            Also what is (AMP REM) Blue/White do?
                            Last edited by bmwstephen; 12-09-2010, 11:15 AM.

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                            • accident
                              R3V OG
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 7303

                              #15
                              assuming you have premium sound, the AMP REM wire is the wire that tells the amplifier to turn on. it's also used for your boomy box to know when to power up as well.

                              Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                              i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                              Originally posted by slammin.e28
                              Moral of this story?

                              If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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